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Ex-Taliban chief details Massood killing
Yahoo News (AP) ^ | September 10, 2006 | MATTHEW PENNINGTON,

Posted on 09/09/2006 10:20:39 PM PDT by John Carey

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To: ansel12

Masood was a hero and he would have been at our side every step of the way. In a strange way, he WAS with us. If you look at the Afgans as they were about to enter Kabul, pictures of Masood adorned every tank, the Afghans made SURE Masood was a part of it.


21 posted on 09/10/2006 5:19:06 AM PDT by McGavin999 (Richard Armitage is a sniveling COWARD!)
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To: John Carey
CNN show "In the footprints of Osama Bin Laden" yesterday. Except for the romantization of Bin Laden, it was a very well down piece. I think CNN's showing it, was their answer to "Path to 9/11".

In any case, they had the wife of one of the Arab murderers of Masood. She was very proud of her husband and his "martyrdom" for jihad. She received a payment directly from "Sheikh" Osama. Muslims go out and murder other muslims in the most brutal way, kill themselves in the process and this is celebrated as muslim "martyrdom".

Where are the "moderate" Muslims decrying the terror killings of Muslims by Muslims? Harmless Mohammed cartoons have set off countless terror attacks due to the "humiliation" of Muslims. Brutal murder of innocent Muslims by Muslims is completely overlooked.

9/11 hijacker/mass murderers, in their own words, say they were inspired to attack America, because of the brutalization of Muslims in Chechnya and Bosnia. Ah, what does Chechnya have to do with America and America helped Bosnian Muslims.

22 posted on 09/10/2006 6:51:33 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: Spktyr
That said, I have to wonder if he thinks (or thought) that all "free" economies are as fragile as the Saudi one that he's familiar with.
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I don't think he thinks of it like that. I think he sees himself as similar to hitting a giant concrete wall with a sledge hammer. He may bring the wall down. He may not. But if he doesn't he will weaken it, leave cracks in it, and someone else following after him will complete the job.

Think Byzantine Empire. The Battle of Yarmuk in 636 pushed the Byzantines back behind the Tarsus Mountains, out of Syria and Palestine. In 1071 the battle of Manzikert pushed the Byzantines out of the Anatolian Highlands and back to the area around Constantinople. Finally in 1453 Constantinople fell. But in between each of these dates there were centuries of back and forth warfare, which changed very little.

He hits us because his religion orders him to. And I'm sure he dreams in his heart of hearts of sitting in the Oval Office and receiving the submission of the Americans. But I doubt he thinks in terms of anything he does being the killing blow, although he believes sooner or later the killing blow will be dealt.

The fear he and all the Mullahs must have is that Moslem society will fall so far behind the West that it will irretrievably lose control of the Moslem masses.
23 posted on 09/10/2006 9:56:00 AM PDT by Cheburashka (World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: Southack
Thanks for the summary of facts. I for one believe entirely to much credit is given to the Russian forces regarding their attempt of conquest in Afghanistan, in some quarters. The screwed the pouch on that endevour. And there continue to be to many arm chair generals short of facts regarding NAM. After President Nixon told the JCS enough is enough and allowed them to conduct the war as it should have been done years earlier, and mined Haipong Harbor, allowed our air power to decimate their ground to air defense in Hanoi and elsewhere, literally ground their remaining airforce, and interdict and destroy their supply lines, they had to go to Paris and sit down. As we know, they realized it was over, and if things continued we would bomb them out of existence and allow our ground troops to take out what remained.
Walter Kronkite and others invented the word quagmire. Least we forget, I know you don't for a moment, only after we left did the goons dare break the truce and invade the south. We did not loose any frigen war.
At any rate. What you write here, has my backing 100%.
24 posted on 09/10/2006 8:02:43 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: John Carey; johnny7; TomGuy; maryz; Lonesome in Massachussets; JLO; gidget7; nopardons; ...

good info ping


25 posted on 09/11/2006 9:19:06 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping. :-)


26 posted on 09/11/2006 9:22:41 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: lmr

Very god! I caught the "please visit freerepublic.com"


27 posted on 09/11/2006 9:40:28 PM PDT by gidget7 (PC is the huge rock, behind which lies hide!)
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To: Marine_Uncle
We did not loose any frigen war.

Our biggest enemy is our own press and democratic party.

They fight a daily propaganda war on behalf on Al Qaeda. They undermined us in and following Vietnam. They hamstring our military today. We desperately need to take out Iran and Syria: Until we do we will be locked in a war of attrition with their terrorist proxies.

28 posted on 09/11/2006 9:40:33 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: hopespringseternal
"...Until we do we will be locked in a war of attrition with their terrorist proxies."
Understand. And so does Bashar and the Iranian Mullahs and President.
The problem remains as how we can justify a total pre-emptive war against them. We can site tons of examples as to why it should be done, but lets face it, the rest of the world doesn't go along with what we think. And US diplomacy can't preach peace and freedom for all, and then literally take apart two countries infrastructors, that have not clearly shown that they have attacked the USA. It remains a problem. Snakes as you fully understand tend to slither through the grass to avoid being killed.
29 posted on 09/11/2006 9:51:30 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Marine_Uncle
The problem remains as how we can justify a total pre-emptive war against them.

Iran is making that case for us, but it remains to be seen if Europe is so blind they will ignore a nuclear Iran.

If we decide to demonstrate leftist self-righteousness to the world, it will be our undoing. The only reason the rest of the world can maintain their position of asinine non-inervention is that our military has protected them for sixty years. We even had to clean up the Bosinian mess in their own backyard - something that had very little effect on us directly and was of huge importance for them.

If we are going to wait for their permission to act we might as well write up our surrender now.

30 posted on 09/11/2006 10:08:13 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: lmr

GREAT VID!!!


31 posted on 09/11/2006 10:21:41 PM PDT by demsux
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To: demsux; lmr

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vmd-3YR7rY&mode=related&search=


32 posted on 09/11/2006 10:42:49 PM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: John Carey

Ex-Taliban Chief Details Massood Slaying
AP ^ | 9/10/06 | MATTHEW PENNINGTON

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1698858/posts
Posted on 09/10/2006 10:38:04 AM CDT by Valin


:-)


33 posted on 09/12/2006 2:37:28 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: hopespringseternal

I most certainly understand your position, and clearly my sentiments are the same. Perhaps the day will come when Syria and or Iran find themselves beyond the point where they wished to play.


34 posted on 09/12/2006 5:26:19 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: John Carey

"But if the U.S. started fighting, he added, its economy would suffer a major blow and it would face the same destiny as the Soviet Union"

Bet we surprised you, Osama. Look who's hiding in a cave while the USA rolls on. Scott Beamer would be proud.


35 posted on 09/12/2006 5:31:42 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Cheburashka
"The fear he and all the Mullahs must have is that Moslem society will fall so far behind the West that it will irretrievably lose control of the Moslem masses."

LOVE and FEAR, the basic emotions. I think the fear is more basic: The fear he and all the Mullahs have is that Moslem WOMEN will gain the slightest bit of power, and that Moslem men will irretrievably lose their control of Moslem WOMEN.

36 posted on 09/12/2006 5:50:32 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet
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To: Marine_Uncle

"Snakes as you fully understand tend to slither through the grass to avoid being killed."

To carry your analogy out a bit, I'd claim that the best way to clear out the viper nest in the garden (or ME, in this case) is to set a mongoose or two to the task.

As the Hezzys/Syria just finished painfully learning (again), the number one mongoose in the ME is the IDF, as they have been for the last fifty years.

What Syria, Iran and the rest of the Islamofascists have to fear most right now is any continued involvement at all by the US in Iraq, hence their and their allies' continuing propaganda campaign to get us out.

First, the forces we have on the scene have shown themselves to be more than a match for any one of them or all of their combined military or paramilitary. As far as they are concerned, we have turned Iraq into one giant killing field, and have very thoroughly established ourselves as the Mother of All Mongooses in their snakey little world.

Far worse for them in the long term is the reconstruction of Iraq, especially after the role the Islamofascists have played in support of Saddam and the continued terror campaign against the Iraqi people since he was overthrown. The reconstituted Iraqi Army is still only in the mongoose kit stage, but isn't far from going out on the hunt and has absolutely no reason to love any of their murderous neighbors.

...Not to mention the daily problems that Iranian and Syrian "leaders" must encounter in merely keeping the lid on their own internal political opposition. With all the media fluff about their religious fatalism, all of 'em really, really like all those perks they've got and don't have any interest at all in becoming anything as permanent and stupid as dead.


37 posted on 09/12/2006 6:37:16 AM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet (I can't really accept a welcome home until the last MIA does.)
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To: bitt

Thanks for the ping!


38 posted on 09/12/2006 9:58:50 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Cheburashka; Spktyr

The radical loser (Long Read)
Der Spiegel ^ | 1/12/05 | Hans Magnus Enzensberger

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1694568/posts
Posted on 09/02/2006 5:55:01 PM CDT by Valin
(snip)
Contrary to what the West appears to believe, the destructive energy of Islamist actions is directed mainly against Muslims. This is not a tactical error, not a case of "collateral damage". In Algeria alone, Islamist terror has cost the lives of at least 50,000 fellow Algerians. Other sources speak of as many as 150,000 murders, although the military and the secret services were also involved. In Iraq and Afghanistan, too, the number of Muslim victims far outstrips the death toll among foreigners. Furthermore, terrorism has been highly detrimental not only to the image of Islam but also to the living conditions of Muslims around the world.

The Islamists are as unconcerned about this as the Nazis were about the downfall of Germany. As the avant-garde of death, they have no regard for the lives of their fellow believers. In the eyes of the Islamists, the fact that most Muslims have no desire to blow themselves and others sky high only goes to show that they deserve no better than to be liquidated themselves. After all, the aim of the radical loser is to make as many other people into losers as possible. As the Islamists see it, the fact that they are in the minority can only be because they are the chosen few.

Experts around the world are not the only ones wondering how the Islamist movement has been able to recruit so many activists with its promises, far outdoing its secular rivals. No clear answer is in sight. All that is clear is that there must be explanations in the history of the Arab civilization that brought forth the world religion of Islam. This civilization reached its apogee at the time of the Caliphate. At this time, it was far superior to Europe in military, economic and cultural terms. The Arab world views this period with misty-eyed nostalgia; even today, 800 years later, it plays a central role in the consciousness of the region.
(snip)


39 posted on 09/12/2006 11:53:31 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet
All you said can be verifiably proven to the true state.
Yea. That pesky little Iraqi mongoose box is most troubling to Syria and Iran. And they realize that we shall continue to engage all forms of terrorism in Iraq as long as GWB is in office. And if Iraq plays it's cards right, just may be a future candidate for NATO. This is most troubling to the little lion and the Mullahs respectively. And Bashar realizes he has the IDF on his west and a US friendly Iraq on his east. Turkey does not trust Syria even the slightest, and Iran will remain isolated geographically. Iraq was a brilliant move in the reality of things. Iran has Israel and the new Iraq on it's western front, and the US and NATO on it's eastern front. Both these over inflated muslim countries have a lot to be worried about in the years ahead.
40 posted on 09/12/2006 6:29:29 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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