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Posted on 09/09/2006 3:26:45 PM PDT by bigfootbob
On Bainbridge, Reciting Pledge Makes Some Edgy
City council finds itself divided and digging in on both sides of the dispute.
By Rachel Pritchett, rpritchett@kitsapsun.com September 9, 2006
Bainbridge Island
More people on the island are entering the debate about whether the Pledge of Allegiance should be recited at City Council meetings -- something that hasn't been done until recently.
The local chamber of commerce, fearing widespread media attention, has sent out an e-mail urging city and chamber leaders to back Old Glory. And Council member Jim Llewellyn, who personally opposes the practice introduced by Councilman Bill Knobloch, doesn't appear to be backing down.
Last week, Llewellyn polled his colleagues by e-mail about whether the Pledge has a place at City Council meetings. He and at least two others -- Nezam Tooloee and Kjell Stoknes -- said no. A stiff statement supporting the Pledge and condemning the councilmen's stances was issued soon after from the local American Legion adjunct.
An article appeared in the Kitsap Sun.
On Wednesday, Bainbridge Island Chamber of Commerce Executive Director Kevin Dwyer sent an e-mail to city leaders and chamber members urging them to stand up for the flag, for the community's sake.
"We would like to discourage you from taking a negative stand against the Pledge of Allegiance. Although you personally may have a strong opinion against the current national administration ... we think the publicity surrounding such a stand would do more harm than good for you and the community at large," Dwyer wrote.
"Negative press reports that more than likely will come out as (a) result of a stand against the pledge could have unintended consequences for the business community and the community as a whole -- suggesting that Bainbridge Islanders are ultra-liberal and against the war, the Bush Administration, etc.," he stated.
But an e-mail also sent Wednesday from Llewellyn to City Council members and others suggested he is not backing down from efforts to seek wider control over whether it's said, and when.
The Pledge of Allegiance is not on the upcoming meeting's agenda. The e-mail was obtained by the Kitsap Sun through a request to the city.
"I will expect NOTHING between "Call to Order" and "Additions/deletions" except "Roll Call" unless agreed to by consent of Council chair and mayor -- prior to the meeting. This has been accepted protocol for the last 15 years, except for the recent couple months. Anything not on the agenda should be added (by consensus) at the "Additions/deletions" part of the agenda," Llewellyn wrote.
It is not known whether more than three of the seven-member Council support or don't support recitation of the pledge, or whether a consensus could be reached.
Repeated efforts to reach Llewellyn on Friday were not successful. But Knobloch, contacted on Friday, seemed to prefer a more permanent place for the pledge at Council meetings.
"I would hope that as a council, together, we make this a permanent part of the agenda," he said.
The next Council meeting is at 7 p.m. Wednesday at City Hall.
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Say the pledge: Anyone who doesnt wish to say it can remain seated. That serves to show them for the assholes they are.
The result of rich privileged limosine liberals taking over. This is what's known as being "progressive".
Good way to weed out the anti-American Stalinist types.
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I attended 2 of the BI meetings and realiuzed they're dominated by rich, snooty libs. In contrast, I love the Silverdale meetings. They always include the Pledge of Allegience in their meetings, and often present awards to members of the armed forces for their service. What a difference a few miles makes!
There's a heck of of a lot of other countries you can go live in if you don't want to say the pledge here.
Please, if you don't want to say the pledge, feel free to leave - we won't stop ya'
There's a heck of of a lot of other countries you can go live in if you don't want to say the pledge here.
Please, if you don't want to say the pledge, feel free to leave - we won't stop ya'
Oh my!! Didn't mean to have that come out twice!!
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You....have way too much time on YOUR hands....
Perhaps they need reminding that there is ANOTHER country just a few miles to the north; if they hate this one so much perhaps they should leave.
Jeez, I am SO tired of these jerks.
If you can't handle pledging your allegiance to this country, MOVE TO ANOTHER ONE!!
I have not and will NEVER shirk from saying the Pledge of Allegiance!
And some AREN'T edgy. Good grief, this is "reporting"????
Yes, they thought they needed an image enhancement when their subscriptions began to flounder...it didn't help. We call it the RedSun now.
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