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Clogged carpool lanes could force new rules (Smug Alert!)
sfgate ^ | 9.9.06 | Michael Cabanatuan, Chronicle Staff Writer

Posted on 09/08/2006 10:36:20 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: Moose4
They won't or can't expand the highway to add capacity

It is won't. Adding capacity would diminish use of metro which would add a bunch to its budget deficit. Adding capacity would smash Wash dc real estate prices, and you can't have that.

41 posted on 09/09/2006 6:50:15 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: SmoothTalker

> Even if you put these rules in place some Hybrids shouldn't count. I see no reason why a Lexus RX Hybrid that gets less than 26 mpg should get the privalege and a Honda Civic that gets 37 shouldn't.

Actually, those vehicles aren't allowed in the car pool lane, even though they're hybrids, you need a certain MPG to qualify.

You also need ugly-@ss stickers plastered on all 4 sides of your car, and a FasTrak (quick toll-pay) device installed.

I admit it: part of the reason I got a Prius is to avoid the hassle on the choke point of the worst part of my commute (no, I don't enjoy the smell of my own body gasses... :-). I will be *pissed* if I went through all this hassle and defaced my new car only to get the bait-and-switch from the idiot government who can't plan ahead.


42 posted on 09/09/2006 7:44:05 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: M_Man

> I hate the way hybrid drivers go slower than traffic to show off how environmentelly concious they are.

I'm with you, except it changes when you get one -- not to show off how environmentally friendly you are, but to play a kind of video game. I'm completely serious. There's this MPG mode you get on the big-ole display, and the competition side of you wants to crank that MPG yellow bar up as tall as it will go.

I always make sure that traffic is moving faster on the left of me, though. The people I *really* hate are the MPG watchers who clog up the left lanes. These people need a slappin'.


43 posted on 09/09/2006 7:49:37 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: VictoryGal

My mother bought a Prius. I was very impressed when I drove it. Very roomy inside (similar cubic footage to a Camry), acceptable acceleration, very quiet in town, a useful hatchback design, and I averaged 54 mpg. Not bad for $21k.


44 posted on 09/09/2006 7:55:49 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker

> My mother bought a Prius. I was very impressed when I drove it. Very roomy inside (similar cubic footage to a Camry), acceptable acceleration, very quiet in town, a useful hatchback design, and I averaged 54 mpg. Not bad for $21k.

It's a really great design, my only regret is that it's a tight fit for our 2 dogs. Too bad the enviro-wackos have stigmatized it (by liking it), but who cares about them? it is a really nice car and the built in extras for the display I opted for (GPS map, Bluetooth handsfree phone) is stuff I really find handy.

Even if the carpool privileges are revoked I'll still like it, but the g. d. govt. should have TOLD us they were thinking of this move before I defaced my car with stickers.


45 posted on 09/09/2006 8:03:14 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: BurbankKarl

Motorcycles only lanes would be a wonderful thing, especially since most states don't permit lane sharing/splitting. It's the one thing that Kalifornia has done right...SSZ


46 posted on 09/09/2006 8:05:51 AM PDT by szweig
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To: VictoryGal

Not to mention the fact that Consumer Reports has it as the one with the highest owner satisfaction and projects it to be the most reliable. I do agree with you that libs have stigmatized it (I think my mother has the only one in NC with a Bush sticker!) but it does make a lot of sense.


47 posted on 09/09/2006 8:11:17 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: 4woodenboats

Yea to all that. I am a Washingtonian also and I know exactly what you mean.


48 posted on 09/09/2006 10:05:13 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: DoughtyOne; Dr. Zoo

It's all politics of course, and an attempt to eventually push as many as possible into public mass transportation. Subsidized by our tax dollars of course.

I have observed in my area (the bay area mentioned in this article) the traffic slow from 50-60 MPH to 10-20 MPH when the HOV lanes start their restrictions at 3PM


Dr. Zoo has been awarded the contract to put charging stations every 6.3 miles in the carpool lanes on Hwy 101 in the north bay. Those battery cars can't go very far without a recharge.


49 posted on 09/09/2006 10:26:49 AM PDT by Syncro (Dr. Zoo, MSU)
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I think they should force those on welfare to become pushers. They could stand at stations about 50 yards apart in the center median. When an electric stalls, they run over and push. No worries about keeping up with traffic since they won't build more road capacity, the traffic will probably be moving slower than the pushers.


50 posted on 09/09/2006 10:29:58 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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Now there's a good idea.

And the pushers wouldn't have to change their title, only what they push.

I had an enterprizing young man threatened to wash my windows in a gas station yesterday.

I got in and locked the doors and took off...
51 posted on 09/09/2006 10:39:06 AM PDT by Syncro
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To: Syncro

I'm going to talk to my Assembly woman about voiding your contract by getting all those battery operated tinker toys banned from the freeway!


52 posted on 09/09/2006 10:49:51 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Herakles

You mean these vehicles are rolling death traps when they meet an old fashioned heavy metal SUV or truck?


53 posted on 09/09/2006 10:55:53 AM PDT by The Westerner
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To: Syncro

LOL


54 posted on 09/09/2006 12:11:40 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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