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The Disbelievers ... 9/11 Conspiracy Theorists Are Building Their Case Against the Government
The Washington Post ^ | September 8, 2006 | By Michael Powell, Washington Post Staff Writer

Posted on 09/08/2006 8:02:07 AM PDT by aculeus

He watched the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and assumed al-Qaeda had wreaked terrible vengeance. He listened to anchors and military experts and assumed the facts of Sept. 11, 2001, were as stated on the screen.

It was a year before David Ray Griffin, an eminent liberal theologian and philosopher, began his stroll down the path of disbelief. He wondered why Bush listened to a child's story while the nation was attacked and how Osama bin Laden, America's Public Enemy No. 1, escaped in the mountains of Tora Bora.

He wondered why 110-story towers crashed and military jets failed to intercept even one airliner. He read the 9/11 Commission report with a swell of anger. Contradictions were ignored and no military or civilian official was reprimanded, much less cashiered.

"To me, the report read as a cartoon." White-haired and courtly, Griffin sits on a couch in a hotel lobby in Manhattan, unspooling words in that reasonable Presbyterian minister's voice. "It's a much greater stretch to accept the official conspiracy story than to consider the alternatives."

Such as?

"There was massive complicity in this attack by U.S. government operatives."

If that feels like a skip off the cliff of established reality, more Americans are in free fall than you might guess. There are few more startling measures of American distrust of leaders than the widespread belief that the Bush administration had a hand in the attacks of Sept. 11 in order to spark an invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq.

A recent Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll of 1,010 Americans found that 36 percent suspect the U.S. government promoted the attacks or intentionally sat on its hands. Sixteen percent believe explosives brought down the towers. Twelve percent believe a cruise missile hit the Pentagon.

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TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911conspiracy; abelieverbelieves; fifthanniversary; kooks; moonbats; onefryshort; rovedidit; rovekilledkennedy; screwballs; thejoooosdidit; wackos
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To: oldleft
I'll have a logical debate with anyone about them.

No you won't. You may want to and you may try to but people like NormB don't think logically. You just used a point (#1) I use all the time which is - if the "eeeevill" Bush used experts who knew demolition to bring down the towers why didn't they cause it to fall over like all the brilliant experts like Charlie Sheen would have expected it to do (you know like in the cartoons where a building falls over like a tree). NormB takes that as an admition on your part that it fell like a controlled demolition.
You may want to have a logical debate with these people but it's just not happening. You can't argue someone out of a position that they never used logic to have in the first place.

41 posted on 09/08/2006 8:34:55 AM PDT by techcor
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To: olderwiser

I will repeat, I am not saying one exists.

I love how defensive you guys are all getting.

Go ahead call me a "moonbat" SAY IT SAY IT!!!

I love it, just a couple little remarks and you all spew every bit of vitrol you can spare, and I haven't even said anything yet!

MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!


42 posted on 09/08/2006 8:36:01 AM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: olderwiser

I will repeat, I am not saying one exists.

I love how defensive you guys are all getting.

Go ahead call me a "moonbat" SAY IT SAY IT!!!

I love it, just a couple little remarks and you all spew every bit of vitrol you can spare, and I haven't even said anything yet!

MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!


43 posted on 09/08/2006 8:36:03 AM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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To: mtairycitizen

"It is far easier for people believe conspiracies, than
to think rationally."

Conspiracy theories are for minds and personalities that cannot tolerate ambiguity.


44 posted on 09/08/2006 8:36:54 AM PDT by angkor
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To: NormB

Twice for more emphasis that you've said...nothing?

You're right about that pal. You've said a whole lot of nothing.


45 posted on 09/08/2006 8:37:27 AM PDT by olderwiser
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To: NormB

Moonbats, crap, sayonara.


46 posted on 09/08/2006 8:38:05 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: aculeus
The MSM writing another fictional script for the elections!

Remember the "draft" lie that a supposed "serious" media were touting in 04?
47 posted on 09/08/2006 8:38:36 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: NormB
Because what you're saying is that the sky may be purple. It makes no sense, and as such should be rejected. No one's spewing vitriol, their pointing out flawed logic.

A great site about the collapse of the towers, BTW:

http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html
48 posted on 09/08/2006 8:39:09 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: aculeus

No.. the Binny videos are real. But he's a CIA employee, don'tcha know.


49 posted on 09/08/2006 8:39:41 AM PDT by Trampled by Lambs (A storm is coming...)
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To: hellinahandcart; NormB
MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!MOONBAT!!

Ignition ...

Lift Off?

50 posted on 09/08/2006 8:39:46 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
Oh good God!!!!! These a$$!#$!@$@#$!

>:(

51 posted on 09/08/2006 8:40:37 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: NormB

Let's have the debate.
Oh wait, I can't so I will just accuse you of other things.
So start debating.

Where is the evidence?


52 posted on 09/08/2006 8:41:01 AM PDT by mtairycitizen
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To: Grut
Yes, I've posted something similar before. The fact that 9-11 conspiracy hawkers are alive and allowed to publish books disproves their theory.

The evil masterminds in the Bush White House killed thousands in cold blood to increase oil profits, but they're afraid to take down this dweeb Griffin who is exposing the plot? Totally illogical.

How long do government critics survive in truly repressive regimes, like Cuba, Red China, or Korea?
53 posted on 09/08/2006 8:46:28 AM PDT by BigBobber
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To: Admin Moderator

Bravo!

(or Brava?)


54 posted on 09/08/2006 8:46:56 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: BigBobber

But they have great health care in these repressive countries.

Hey they even recycle the organs of the dissidents that
they execute.


55 posted on 09/08/2006 8:48:42 AM PDT by mtairycitizen
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To: NormB; aculeus
I love it, just a couple little remarks and you all spew every bit of vitrol you can spare

Don't flatter yourself.

We've all got plenty of vitriol left.

56 posted on 09/08/2006 8:48:51 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Shimmer128

Which is kind of an oxy-MORON.


57 posted on 09/08/2006 8:49:01 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: hellinahandcart

He is probably over at DU now.

I had a great debate with those who dont believe
that 911 was done by Bush. And I won the argument with
"Hey you guys are spewing vitriol!!" Hey everybody give me a high five.

Priceless.


58 posted on 09/08/2006 8:52:01 AM PDT by mtairycitizen
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To: Admin Moderator

Wow, he's finally axed?


59 posted on 09/08/2006 8:52:41 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: NormB

Hey Norm, are you aware that DNA evidence at the Pentagon crash site matched Flight 77 passengers?
Care to explain that one?


60 posted on 09/08/2006 8:55:58 AM PDT by WoodstockCat (General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
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