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House GOP crafting new border security bill
AP on Yahoo ^ | 9/7/06 | Suzanne Gamboa - ap

Posted on 09/07/2006 4:04:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - House Republicans are crafting new bills to crack down on illegal immigrants, nailing the coffin shut for now on broader legislation that would give many illegal immigrants legal status.

If the bills are approved, Republicans can go into midterm elections Nov. 7 saying they took action on illegal immigration. At the same time, they can appease conservatives who oppose giving illegal immigrants a chance at citizenship, which some have called amnesty.

"Our borders are a sieve and we are at war and we certainly need to act like we are at war. We need to close our borders," House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., told reporters Thursday.

House leaders will preside over a meeting next week where Republican committee chairmen will propose border security measures based on what they learned from field hearings they conducted over the past month, Hastert said.

"It won't be the whole 95 tons of what we've tried to work between the House and Senate, but we will try to get some things done," he said.

Some possible ideas include voter identification cards and safer Social Security cards, he said.

The package also will include some immigration spending added to pending defense and homeland security appropriations bills. Congressional leaders want to get those bills to President Bush this month before adjourning to campaign for the November elections.

Senate Majority Bill Frist, R-Tenn., said Wednesday it would be "next to impossible" to pass a comprehensive immigration reform bill by the end of the month.

The House package would also need Senate approval. Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (news, bio, voting record), R-Texas, said Congress has already been improving border security.

"I think it would be a huge lost opportunity if we don't try to create a system going forward that allows people to come into our country legally," Hutchison said. She has proposed an immigration bill with Rep. Mike Pence (news, bio, voting record), R-Ind., that calls for a guest worker program.

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass., a chief architect of the Senate bill, said the House plan for more legislation "has more to do with solving a political problem for Republicans than solving our immigration problem."

Kennedy joined thousands of people who rallied on the National Mall to push for a comprehensive immigration bill. The crowd chanted "Si Se Puede," which translates to "Yes, it can be done." But some were skeptical it could be done soon.

"If we go back to the civil rights movement, people had to march for years and years to get something," said Jaime Castillo, chairman of the National Capital Immigration Council.

Flor Hernandez, 25, of Alexandria, Va., said she is already looking to the future. She is the daughter of immigrants from El Salvador.

"I'm here to support my next generation and to make sure we are going to vote," she said.

The House passed an enforcement-only immigration bill last December that would build 700 miles of fences on the border, require employers to verify workers are legal and subject to felony prosecution illegal immigrants and the people who help them.

The bill triggered massive street demonstrations last spring by immigrants and their advocates that helped build support for the Senate's broader immigration bill.

In June, the Senate passed a bill supported by Bush that would let a majority of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants already in the United States remain in the country and eventually earn U.S. citizenship. It also would create a new guest worker program and toughen border security.

With elections looming, House Republicans balked at negotiating a compromise, instead holding dozens of hearings in July and August to criticize the Senate bill.

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Associated Press writer Natasha Metzler contributed to this report.


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1 posted on 09/07/2006 4:04:12 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) gestures after speaking at a rally for immigration rights in front of the Capitol Building on the Washington Mall September 7, 2006. (Jason Reed/Reuters)


Teddy K: HEY! Anybody need a lift?


2 posted on 09/07/2006 4:05:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

Man, I would have paid a small fortune to see a stage dive....

3 posted on 09/07/2006 4:08:26 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Just another evil conservative)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


4 posted on 09/07/2006 4:08:33 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: The Iceman Cometh

stage dive....

lol.. probably why they banned posters with pointy sticks.


5 posted on 09/07/2006 4:10:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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as the nike ads used to say..."just do it!!!"


6 posted on 09/07/2006 4:12:54 PM PDT by hnj_00
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To: NormsRevenge
Still, something upsetting about 'appeasing the conservatives' (sic).

The conservatives here, on this forum, and all over the land, do not want further APPEASEMENT. They want a wall on the Mexican border and troops there fulltime indefinitely NOW, and tough employer sanctions NOW, demolition of tax supported day labor centers NOW, and denial of social welfare benefits, tuition credits, drivers licenses, banking remittance, mortgage applications for illegals NOW, and an end to anchor babies NOW, and deportations, some may be forced but mostly on their own volition when they see the spigot of gringo freebies is really being shut down. If the GOP can get onboard for that in this closing Congress, and the next Congress, they will have our support on Election Day.

7 posted on 09/07/2006 4:15:29 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (..is an American allright, but is not in Japan, folks. Thanks for letting me keep the moniker.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Not sure the word "dive" is a good choice when talking about a Kennedy.


8 posted on 09/07/2006 4:19:57 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: NormsRevenge

Hmmmm.... Maybe my call to Denny Hastert's office (along with thousands of others) did some good.

I told the young man who answered the phone that if Congress didn't do something about the Border before the midterm elections, Speaker Hastert will be handing the gavel over to Nancy Pelosi in January.


9 posted on 09/07/2006 4:21:40 PM PDT by no dems ("25 homicides a day committed by Illegals" Ted Poe (R-TX) Houston Hearings 8/16/06)
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To: NormsRevenge
Smart move. I suspect, however, all the usual suspects will now show up screaming "Too Little Too Late".

Politically though, it WILL force the screamers to explain why firing the ONLY people who are serious about Border Enforcement (US House GOP) in order to put the Congress in the hands of Democrats (who will vote all most 100% against it) is such a "brilliant" political move for Conservatives.

Destroying your own political position on an issue to "teach them a lesson" is the behavior of petulant children. It is the equivalent of a toddler throwing a temper-tantrum because the juice glass is 40% empty.
10 posted on 09/07/2006 4:21:56 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: NormsRevenge
"I think it would be a huge lost opportunity if we don't try to create a system going forward that allows people to come into our country legally," Hutchison said.

Senator, we already have a system that allows people to come into the country legally. However, you and others are trampling on the rights of those waiting overseas 10 to 30 years to immigrate here legally.
11 posted on 09/07/2006 4:22:32 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: NormsRevenge

65 PROTESTS FROM COAST TO COAST, LARGEST IMMIGRANT MOBILIZATION IN HISTORY.

Washington, D.C. ? Today, Senator Edward M. Kennedy joined over 200,000 for a rally supporting his plan for comprehensive immigration reform. Demonstrations took place across the country, in 65 cities, for the ?National Day of Action for Immigrant Justice?. Last week, comprehensive immigration legislation spearheaded by Senators Kennedy and McCain fell short of the votes needed to move forward. Leaders in the labor, business and religious community came together in an unprecedented way to meet this challenge and Senator Kennedy has vowed to continue his fight for tough, fair legislation that deals with our national security and economic challenges in a way that is consistent with our values and the American Dream.

?Some in Congress want to turn America away from its true spirit,? Senator Kennedy said, ?They believe immigrants are criminals. That?s false. They believe any of us who help immigrants ? even our priests ? are criminals, too. That?s false. They say you should report to deport. I say report to become American citizens. More than four decades ago, near this place, Martin Luther King called on the nation to let freedom ring. Freedom did ring ? and freedom can ring again. It is time for Americans to lift their voices now -- in pride for our immigrant past and in pride for our immigrant future.?

The Kennedy-McCain plan combines tough enforcement measures that will protect our borders and increase national security and provide a path to earned citizenship. Demonstrators from coast to coast are demanding humane immigration solutions that provide a path to citizenship, unite families, deal with the future flow of immigrants in a legal and compassionate way, and ensure workplace and civil rights protections, all of which are included the Kennedy-McCain plan for comprehensive immigration reform.







Below are Senator Kennedy?s remarks at the really as prepared for delivery:

Thank you, Jaime Contreras for that warm introduction.

Buenos tardes! Gracias por darme la oportunidad de estar en este evento. Y gracias por demandar justicia para todos los inmigrantes.

I look across this historic gathering and I see the future of America. As President Kennedy proclaimed a half century ago, we are a Nation of Immigrants. And today, we stand together as brothers and sisters to shape America?s destiny ? old Americans, new Americans, future Americans ? all joined together for the common good.

Let me ask you some questions. Are you ready? (Estas listo?)

Do you have a job? (Tienes trabajo?)

Do you love your family? (Amas a su familia?)

Do you love your community? (Amas a su comunidad?)

Do you love America? (Amas a America?)

You are what this debate is about. It is about good people who come to America to work, to raise their families, to contribute to their communities, and to reach for the American dream.

This debate goes to the heart of who we are as Americans. It will determine who can earn the privilege of citizenship.

It will determine our strength in separating those who would harm us from those who contribute to our values.

It will determine our future progress as a nation and our future economic growth.


Some in Congress want to turn America away from its true spirit. They believe immigrants are criminals. That?s false.

They believe any of us who help immigrants ? even our priests ? are criminals, too. That?s false.

They say you should report to deport. I say report to become American citizens.

More than four decades ago, near this place, Martin Luther King called on the nation to let freedom ring. Freedom did ring ? and freedom can ring again.

It is time for Americans to lift their voices now -- in pride for our immigrant past and in pride for our immigrant future.

We stand for the future. (Nosotros apoyamos el futuro.)

We stand for our families. (Nosotros apoyamos nuestras familias.)

We stand for our faith. (Nosotros apoyamos nuestra fe.)

I stand with you. And you and you and you and you.

Are you with me? (Estan conmigo?)

John McCain and I have a plan. It is a strong plan. It is a fair plan. It is a plan for America?s future.

And today we are making that future happen.

Will you support us? (Me apoyan?)

Will you support us? (Me apoyan?)

Will you support us? (Me apoyan?)

Well, I?m here today to say that we will support you, too. (Nosotros vamos a apoyar a ustedes tambien.)

We will never give up. We will never give in.

Hasta la Victoria!

Si se puede!

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=7925

(ok, now I am REALLY sick, gagging and pukeing)


12 posted on 09/07/2006 4:23:03 PM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ 2005, Texas Minutemen El Paso, Oct and April 2006)
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To: NormsRevenge

They know it will never get through the Senate. After the elections then watch out.


13 posted on 09/07/2006 4:23:46 PM PDT by Revel
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Voter ID cards!! Watch the Democrats' heads explode.


14 posted on 09/07/2006 4:24:11 PM PDT by sdillard
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To: Revel

I just realized that saddly even if it got through the House, and Senate, Bush would never sign it into law.


15 posted on 09/07/2006 4:24:47 PM PDT by Revel
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To: MNJohnnie
Good observation.

Come over and visit the Pennsylvania state board just to see what is being said about Senator Rick Santorum.

16 posted on 09/07/2006 4:25:21 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings.)
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To: NormsRevenge

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"If we go back to the civil rights movement, people had to march for years and years to get something," said Jaime Castillo, chairman of the National Capital Immigration Council."

This is a disgusting comparison. There is no comparison between the two and i'd expect that if Jamie had had any US history he'd know that. Martin Luther King was fighting to give US citizens the right to vote, the right to eat anywhere they wanted, they right to go to the same places other citizens could go, and the right to live in a society free of the fear of racial violence. Castillo and his crowd are fighting to let foreign citizens vote and live off of our welfare system.


17 posted on 09/07/2006 4:27:17 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: NormsRevenge
House GOP crafting new border security bill

"Si Se Puede,"

18 posted on 09/07/2006 4:27:37 PM PDT by VU4G10 (Have You Forgotten?)
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To: Torie
Told ya, told ya, told ya. LOL.
19 posted on 09/07/2006 4:28:40 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: TLI

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Some in Congress want to turn America away from its true spirit. They believe immigrants are criminals."

I don't think immigrants are criminals. I respect immigrants. I think ILLEGAL immigrants are criminals. They are called ILLEGAL for the reason that they break the law. Hence they are CRIMINALS. You'd think that wouldn't be too hard for anyone to understand, even an old drunk.


20 posted on 09/07/2006 4:29:03 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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