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Feds Lying About 11 Million Illegals (Equivalent of four army divisions a week)
newsmax ^ | Thursday, Sept. 7, 2006 | Jim Gilchrist and Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D.

Posted on 09/07/2006 10:52:30 AM PDT by VU4G10

Last month Homeland Security intentionally lied to the American people by claiming there are only 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States.

The true total is nearly three times that.

The 11 million figure is courtesy of a report released in August 2006 by the Office of Immigration Statistics of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

The figure is intentionally understated. We discovered this while researching our book, "Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders," and we believe it is done so as not to alarm the U.S. public. [Editor's Note: The "Minutemen" book by Jim Gilchrist and Jerome Corsi offers insights into the security concerns surrounding illegal immigration. Read more about it. Get our FREE Offer. Click Here Now.]

Why do we make this charge? To begin with, those conducting government surveys never ask directly, "Are you an illegal immigrant?" (To ask this question would be objectionable to many – certainly to illegal aliens and their enablers.) So, instead of asking this question, government researchers ask, "Are you foreign-born?"

If people acknowledge being foreign-born, they are asked when they arrived in the United States and whether or not they are U.S. citizens. Based on these answers, researchers make an estimate as to whether or not respondents are here illegally.

In other words, the government doesn't know how many illegal aliens are on U.S. soil, and it won't even ask relevant questions in its surveys. Instead, it prefers to guess.

We interviewed Dr. Jeffrey S. Passel at the Pew Hispanic Research Center in Washington, D.C., whose own estimates agree with those released by DHS.

Dr. Passel admitted that the government typically uses indirect means to estimate how many illegal aliens are in the United States. "Basically, we subtract the legal foreign-born population from the total foreign-born population that's in the survey, to get an estimate of the unauthorized migrants who appear in the survey," Dr. Passel told us in a telephone interview.

Now, the U.S. government excels at keeping statistics. The "U.S. Statistical Abstract" counts tens of thousands of measures that the government uses to make laws and enforce regulations. Everything from congressional representation to taxation issues, to how school budgets are allocated and transportation regulations enforced, are tallied and reported each year in the "Abstract."

When it comes to taxing its citizens, getting accurate numbers doesn't seem to be a problem. And yet our government can more exactly estimate how many hot dogs and hamburgers will be sold at next year's Super Bowl than estimate the number of illegal aliens in the United States today.

The government, for instance, does not count as illegal the millions of "anchor babies" who are born in the United States to illegal aliens. Under the federal government's politically correct interpretation of the 14th Amendment, anchor babies born here are U.S. citizens, not illegal aliens. And the government doesn't count the millions of illegals granted citizenship under one of the many amnesties Congress has passed since 1986.

The point is that illegal immigration numbers are all about politics. The term "illegal immigrant" is hated by supporters of open borders precisely because "illegal immigrant" describes too directly what is obviously going on. Supporters of unlimited open immigration want us to see illegal immigrants as "unauthorized migrants," or "undocumented immigrants," even as "guest workers." Spin is in — and simple English is the enemy.

Based on our research while writing our book, when groups the federal government excludes from its "official" estimates are properly counted, we conclude that there are currently 30 million illegal immigrants in the United States. That's right — 30 million, or nearly three times the number that DHS is guessing.

What's more, the evidence also suggests there are 10,000 more illegals crossing our unguarded borders every day. This translates to approximately 75,000 illegal immigrants crossing each week, with 4-6 million new illegals entering the U.S. each year.

These are unvetted, unapprehended aliens who intend to blend into our society and occupy our territory. Many having no intention whatsoever of assimilating and yet have no intention of returning to their homelands either.

This illegal alien invasion is the equivalent of four army divisions a week. While these individuals are busy entering and occupying American territory, our elected officials are busy forcing citizens and legal immigrants to pay for the "privilege" of being invaded.

The rate of illegal immigration is increasing geometrically. Within 5 to 10 years, we may see 10 million or more illegals crossing our borders each year. At this rate, somewhere around the year 2025, we may end up with 100 million illegal aliens in the United States — 1/3rd of more of our total population.

No wonder our government doesn't want an accurate count of illegal immigrants, especially not if an honest and direct methodology called for asking any "politically incorrect" questions in a "politically incorrect" manner.

Jim Gilchrist is the founder of the Minuteman Project. Jerome R. Corsi, Ph.D., is the co-author of the NYT best-seller "Unfit for Command."


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; corsi; cuespookymusic; illegal; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; kookmagnet; morethorzineplease; nationalsecurity; piledhighanddeep
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To: Kimberly GG
We have a great new term for those who play with words to try to mitigate the reality of illegal immigration--we call them the AXIS of AMNESTY!
21 posted on 09/07/2006 11:20:35 AM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!)
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To: JustPiper

Just saw this- FYI.

Major grrrr type noise from over here.


22 posted on 09/07/2006 11:21:22 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Iscool
I don't know is you are meaning to be sarcastic in saying that the 11 million number has been claimed since 1956. It certainly hasn't. The earlier poster who says "how can it not have increased in 5 years" is right -- it wasn't said to be 11 million 5 years ago -- it was said to be 8 million, and 5 million in 1990 or so. These may be right or wrong -- but you can't prove it just by yelling bigger and bigger numbers -- 20, 30, 50 million,

If you try to be analytical about it (and that really is what the census bureau does -- you can go to the documents and see how they compute it -- then argue with it based on facts.), either the claimed population of 300 million is 10, 20 or 40 million too low -- or, a lot more of the people here are illegal than are claimed.

Neither seems extremely likely. Just like precinct returns make up the vote totals (and that's why the Kerry claims in Ohio are so phony), census totals come from figures from the block level on up. They're available. People can look them up and try to explain why they are grossly wrong. And you can't just yell "there are 342 aliens in the house I heard of across town."

Or, you can try to explain why instead of , say 290 million legals (300-11) there are really only 280 million or 260 or 250. Those numbers are built up from birth and death records, citizenship records, and immigration records. Again, not perfect, but it really isn't likely that 30 or 40 million citizens disappeared over the past few decades.

I'm not claiming these figures are perfect -- I'm fine with an argument that there is an error range of a couple of million out of 300 million. But it's just loony to claim that it's off by 10s of millions -- at least without some serious attempt to say where they are, and how that differs from the official estimates.

23 posted on 09/07/2006 11:26:23 AM PDT by BohDaThone
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To: DonaldC
We should just make Mexico the 51st state.

That would raise the average temperature of our climate ...

24 posted on 09/07/2006 11:28:27 AM PDT by 11th_VA
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To: VU4G10

If there really are more than 30 million illegals in the U.S. instead of 11 million, that would mean more than 10% of the people in the U.S. are here illegally. If this is the case, I can understand (but not agree with) the Senate wanting some type of amnesty plan. That many people facing deportation could lead, literally, to a domestic insurrection on the part of the illegals and the economic fallout from losing a tenth of the people in the country will not be mild. But something needs to be done. THe self deportation by penalizing employers is the simplest, first step.


25 posted on 09/07/2006 11:37:18 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: rottndog

I think he made promises to people before he was elected and refuses to go back on his promises. That is the only thing I can think of for him to continue this madness.


26 posted on 09/07/2006 11:54:51 AM PDT by lone star annie
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To: lone star annie
I think he made promises to people before he was elected and refuses to go back on his promises.

So much for the promise he made to the American People when he raised his right hand, held his left hand on a Bible, and stated:

"I, George W. Bush, do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
27 posted on 09/07/2006 12:01:59 PM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!--SUPPORT BORDER ENFORCEMENT, DEFEAT THE AXIS OF AMNESTY!)
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To: BohDaThone

Thank you for the rationality.

I would only add that acting like a DemUndergrounder on this issue does not do anything to advance policies to control illegal immigration.


28 posted on 09/07/2006 12:02:00 PM PDT by cosine
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To: VU4G10

No offense, but the claim that none of these new arrivals ever leave is incorrect. Hundreds, if not thousands leave each and every day.

While the number entering is out pacing the number leaving, many do leave. There are hundreds of thousands of seasonal jobs and the illegals migrate back and forth.


29 posted on 09/07/2006 12:02:25 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: Marine Inspector
....the illegals migrate back and forth.

Ths also happens the first of every month when their govt. checks arrive.

30 posted on 09/07/2006 12:28:12 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Marine Inspector
You should know, but I have the feeling that as a percentage of those entering illegally, an increasing percentage is choosing to stay.

I am reminded of this because this AM I saw a young lady, dressed as though she were plucked out of some rural area in southern mexico & dropped on a street corner in Los Gatos to sell strawberries, who looked at least 8 months pregnant. I think its safe to say she ain't going anywhere.

31 posted on 09/07/2006 12:33:03 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: VU4G10

"What's more, the evidence also suggests there are 10,000 more illegals crossing our unguarded borders every day. This translates to approximately 75,000 illegal immigrants crossing each week, with 4-6 million new illegals entering the U.S. each year."

I seem to recall GWB mentioning that we are involved with a long and protracted WOT.

Perhaps I misunderstood him.


32 posted on 09/07/2006 12:34:32 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: skeeter
You are correct; while there a increasing lareger number settling, we still have a huge number doing the back and forth crossing.
33 posted on 09/07/2006 12:40:44 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: skeeter
BTW, I grew up in the Santa Cruz area.

My mom used to drive over 17 to Los Gatos ever day to work.
34 posted on 09/07/2006 12:43:17 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: texastoo
That's why San Luis Arizona has more PO Boxes then people living in the city. I think the ratio is like 10 to 1.
35 posted on 09/07/2006 12:44:46 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (Customs & Border Protection Officer)
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To: sure_fine

Does that make their assertion incorrect?


36 posted on 09/07/2006 12:47:23 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: VU4G10
Our sainted federal government lying to us about the number of illegal aliens who have flooded into our country?

Shocker.

After all, they've always been so forthcoming and honest about everything else...

37 posted on 09/07/2006 12:51:39 PM PDT by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: VU4G10

Heck, I go with the Bear-Stearns report that estimated the illegals at
about 20 million.
And I think that report is from about 2 years ago.

Unlike the Federal guvmint, Bear-Stearns has to make the best assessment
possible...because they are trying to MAKE money...not just print it
or spend other people's money.


38 posted on 09/07/2006 12:54:29 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Marine Inspector

I grew up in SJ & used to commute with my 7'er to Steamers Lane & Pleasure Pt two or three times a week. You locals weren't a very friendly lot:)


39 posted on 09/07/2006 12:56:55 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: VU4G10
These are unvetted, unapprehended aliens who intend to blend into our
society and occupy our territory. Many having no intention
whatsoever of assimilating and yet have no intention of returning
to their homelands either.


They call it a Reconquista.
Only they are going to take MORE than the chunck of Mexico that we paid
the Mexican government for.
40 posted on 09/07/2006 12:56:58 PM PDT by VOA
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