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Sunnis Enraged As Iraq Prepares To Divide Itself Into Regions
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9-7-2006 | Oliver Poole

Posted on 09/06/2006 6:09:13 PM PDT by blam

Sunnis enraged as Iraq prepares to divide itself into regions

By Oliver Poole, Iraq Correspondent

(Filed: 07/09/2006)

The future of Iraq as a sovereign nation was thrown into jeopardy yesterday after a new law was introduced to parliament that would enable the break up of the country into semi-autonomous regions.

If passed, a self-ruling Shia state is likely to emerge in the south, based on the autonomous region Kurds have already established in the north.

It would not only be able to levy its own taxes and govern itself but, Shia politicians say, would have its own armed guards posted along its borders.

Iraq's Sunni community, which is bitterly opposed to the prospect, has warned it will mark the first step in the break up of the country and could lead to the south of Iraq becoming a satellite of Iran.

The introduction of the law was marked by a plea by the parliament's speaker that delegates must compromise and find agreement on the prospect of federalism, otherwise the country risked not only collapsing but descending into anarchy.

"We have three to four months to reconcile with each other," said Mahmoud al-Mashhadani, a Sunni. "If the country does not survive this, it will go under." The law is almost certain to pass as federalism is supported by both Shia and Kurd parties, who control two thirds of the seats in parliament, though it could be amended.

Last night, the document was being considered by a committee of senior parliamentarians and its contents, including the powers of the new semi-autonomous regions, remained unclear.

Hamid Mualla al-Saadi, a leading member of the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq, a party with historic links to Iran which drafted the proposal, said only that it would "define how the regions are formed." This would be done through either a vote in a governing council selected from the region's leaders or via a popular referendum, he said.

The principle of a federalised Iraq was one of the key principles accepted in the country's constitution written last year. The law defining how this would work in practice had to be submitted by September 16.

However the recent sectarian violence that has engulfed the country ever since the bombing in February of the Golden Mosque in Samarra, appears to have led to a marked radicalisation among Shia political leaders of what their federal state would involve.

Last year the idea was for a moderate federal state consisting of loose political alliances of provinces with the central government still having control of oil and the country's armed forces.

But Abdel Aziz Hakim, the head of the SCIRI, has in recent months advocated a nine-province "super region" in the Shia south, where 60 per cent of the country's oil reserves are located.

It would have its own armed forces drawn from militias such as the Badr Brigade, which is run by the SCIRI, already operating in the region and have some control over oil exploration.

"This is a guarantee to our sons and grandsons that injustice will not be revived," he said last month, referring to Shia persecution by Saddam Hussein.

Khudair Khuzaie, the Shia education minister, recently laid a scenario that would in practice be semi-partition.

"Federalism will cut off all parts of the country that are incubating terrorism from those that are upgrading and improving," he said. "We will put soldiers along the frontiers." Such talk inflames Iraq's Sunnis, whose leaders warn federalism is an attempt by the Shia to seize control of Iraq's oil and could lead to the south falling under the sway of Teheran.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: divide; enraged; into; iraq; itself; prepares; rebuildingiraq; regions; sunnis
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1 posted on 09/06/2006 6:09:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Gee Sunnis if you don't like this idea why did you keep blowing up Shia?


2 posted on 09/06/2006 6:12:16 PM PDT by JLS
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To: blam

They should at least have the equivalent of our states where there is local control except for national matters.


3 posted on 09/06/2006 6:14:02 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: blam
The Sunni Arabs would be bereft of resources and left impoverished. Guess who sits on virtually all of Iraq's oil? The Kurds and Shiites.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

4 posted on 09/06/2006 6:14:55 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: JLS
It seems to be a question they never asked themselves. I suppose its because they thought a little bit of continuing violence would run us out of there before the Shia could get their act together.

Well, welcome to the barren desert Sunni Arabs ~ no oil there, but look at the opportunities for suburban tract homes ~ miles and miles of nothing standing in your way.

5 posted on 09/06/2006 6:16:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: JLS
What happened to the Christians and Turkamen of Iraqi heritage?

Did the P/C map makers just wipe them out?

6 posted on 09/06/2006 6:19:35 PM PDT by pointsal (q)
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To: muawiyah
Well, welcome to the barren desert Sunni Arabs ~ no oil there, but look at the opportunities for suburban tract homes

Their problems will be solved if they can come with an Arab version of William Mulholland along with an Arab version of Owens Valley.

7 posted on 09/06/2006 6:23:42 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: blam
This has been brewing for some time. Senator (brilliant) Biden has been pushing it here.

It may serve to bring the Sunni's to their senses. They would end up with a lot of sand and no oil....But I don't see it happening anytime soon...

8 posted on 09/06/2006 6:27:36 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: blam

moslems never seem to be terse or a little bit mad. They are always "enraged". I checked to see if I cared about that and I don't. So, I guess they can keep being "enraged" and then blow up or we can blow them up.


9 posted on 09/06/2006 6:29:53 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (You! Shake your junk!)
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To: blam

bump


10 posted on 09/06/2006 6:30:52 PM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: blam

Never happen. Not with 150,000 US troops over there. No way we're letting iran take over the south. You'll see a US-Kurdish-Sunni alliance backed by the Brits, Australians, and Eastern EU, plus the Saudis and Jordanians and we'll kick the shiite's iranian sucking butts.


11 posted on 09/06/2006 6:34:57 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: blam

Apparently, we're fencing the idiots in.
Good plan.


12 posted on 09/06/2006 6:36:48 PM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool ("O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends" - Koran 5.51)
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To: blam
Let us not knee jerk. It is a proposal at this point that is all. And let us not forget, this very talk has been brewing in Iraq since prior to their constitution was ratified.
And so those with a little less knowledge of what is going on, sakes, we should remember that Iraq has had 17 provinces, in essence states, each governed a bit differently. Each has it's own governor and government body.
Surely a huge amount of pressure is going to be brought down on them by the US and Brits to not even consider this proposal.
Iraq must be governed by a continued unity federal goverment seated in the country's capital city.
I hesitate to say much more at this point. We have hashed and rehashed so many times over the past two years as to how such a division would destroy Iraq and most likely present a failed attempt by the US to stabilize the ME region.
The concept of one secular democratically elected government for all Iraqi within the current recognized international borders is the only ticket to success for a future Iraq that can prosper and be a good stabilizing force in the region.
It has the blessings of most of the Arab states in the region as far as I can see. Most don't want Iran and Syria to become power players in the region, with the help of the Russians.
The only way to prevent that is for Iraq to stay united and to grow in prosperity, and status, and to take sides for a long term commitment with the west, including eventual acceptance into NATO.
Then Iraq, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt, can keep things on an even keel.
13 posted on 09/06/2006 6:37:47 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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Are you not happy with the number of dead Iraqis so far ? Do you want more dead ?

More dead Muslims?

"It's a good thing."

15 posted on 09/06/2006 6:43:11 PM PDT by zarf
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To: blam; Salem; wagglebee; river rat; SandRat; The Old Sarge; MikefromOhio

This is actually a good idea. Have a national government to dictate diplomatic affairs while the regional governments oversee domestic and local policies.


16 posted on 09/06/2006 6:49:23 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: JLS
Gee Sunnis if you don't like this idea why did you keep blowing up Shia?

Violence and threats of violence were the methods that always got them what they wanted in the past. It's so difficult for an old dog to learn new tricks.

17 posted on 09/06/2006 7:10:14 PM PDT by etlib (No creature without tentacles has ever developed true intelligence)
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To: JLS
Gee Sunnis if you don't like this idea why did you keep blowing up Shia?

The Shia aren't exactly innocent. Iran is funding the Mehdi Army and the Badr Brigade which are the cause of most of the problems in Baghdad right now.

The former Ba'athists and other Sunnis are actually calming down. The radical Shiite groups are rising up and are stirring the pot pretty hard, led by the scumbag Muqtada al Sadr.

18 posted on 09/06/2006 7:14:16 PM PDT by Allegra (Home, Sweet Home!)
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To: blam

This should have happened back in the 30's.

The reason why this will never fly is that Turkey and the Kurd's don't see eye to eye. They don't want to see an independent Kurdistan.


19 posted on 09/06/2006 7:19:27 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: JLS

The only ones blowing up Shia are al-Qaeda to start a civil war.

Both, Iran and al-Qaeda have a huge interest in Iraq breaking up and we can't let it happen.


20 posted on 09/07/2006 12:26:10 PM PDT by jmc1969
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