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Delta gets court nod to end pilot pension plan
Reuters ^ | 05 Sep 06 | Reuters

Posted on 09/05/2006 2:24:20 PM PDT by TUAN_JIM

NEW YORK, Sept 5 (Reuters) - A U.S. bankruptcy court on Tuesday allowed Delta Air Lines Inc. (DALRQ.PK: Quote, Profile, Research) to terminate its pilot defined benefit pension plan, clearing a major hurdle in its restructuring plans

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: airlines; dal; pensions
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To: muawiyah

I got that number from Bloomberg.com, which isn't allowed to be linked to here. BusinessWeek shows the same dollar amount. They don't say how the amount was calculated.


21 posted on 09/05/2006 8:16:25 PM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: TUAN_JIM

Thought so. I referenced the official government tables. Do you suspect a propaganda motive on the part of Bloomburg, or is it they don't want us copying their stuff lest our fact checkers demonstrate how wrong they are.


22 posted on 09/06/2006 5:42:44 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: TUAN_JIM
Meanwhile, the executives get golden parachutes and pay increases on a scale of >= 20 percent.

Shareholders have an obligation to vote down lavish executive compensation packages especially when the company stock is performing poorly. A good example is Home Dept.
23 posted on 09/06/2006 5:50:22 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: muawiyah

http://www.latimes.com/business/investing/wire/sns-ap-delta-hearing,1,7331296.story?coll=sns-ap-investing-headlines

The LA Times says about $75,000


24 posted on 09/06/2006 9:39:43 AM PDT by TUAN_JIM (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: TUAN_JIM
No, LA Times didn't say that ~ Delta said that. However, the government's tables say differently.

Maybe Delta's lawyers lied? Or, maybe the "newsie" putting together this story didn't comprehend what 39% of existing retirement liability really means when the company is talking in the sense of "if the plan is terminated".

That 39% is about $30,000, or 2/3 of the maximum table value.

Remember, that would include existing and newly retired pilots as of 2006, on average, and the article has no information at all on what the current average really is.

All Delta has to pay when the plan is terminated is enough money to support an annuity that pays pilots annuities according to the government's schedule.

25 posted on 09/06/2006 9:50:24 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: NittanyLion
live entirely off your IRA, 401k, and other savings, because you can't count on an employer or the federal government to support you.

My entire working career was for a corporation owned by an invidual. He didn't want the bother of "plans" of any kind, so he used the mindset of "you're all big boys and girls" and paid us much better than average with the idea that if we wanted benefits, etc., it was our choice.

In my case it worked well - wifey and I bought a vacation home as our retirement plan, and got it paid off....we live here now, and it's worth probably 6 times what we paid for it.

26 posted on 09/06/2006 9:55:00 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: ErnBatavia
In my case it worked well - wifey and I bought a vacation home as our retirement plan, and got it paid off....we live here now, and it's worth probably 6 times what we paid for it.

Personally, I'd always rather be paid the extra money and control it myself. I don't trust my employer to manage my money better than I can.

27 posted on 09/06/2006 10:33:43 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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