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To: orionblamblam
" it's not my job, nor yours, nor the governments, to say that someone shouldn't be allowed to get all tore up at home."

Wrong. When your supplier also peddles his wares into my kids or grandkids hands, it is my business what you do. Society, yes even free ones like this, depend on basic laws and societal standards to exist. The reason this country is falling apart is because we are becoming a lawless, anything goes society, and like Rome and any other society before it, unless we stick to our foundational laws and standards, this one will fall too.

137 posted on 09/05/2006 11:21:10 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
and like Rome and any other society before it, unless we stick to our foundational laws and standards,

Say, like US federal law before 1937?

138 posted on 09/05/2006 11:23:23 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Nathan Zachary

> When your supplier also peddles his wares into my kids or grandkids hands, it is my business what you do.

Wait. So, if the local gun dealer sells guns to my kids, I lose the right to no unreasonable search and seizure? My second amendment rights go away?

> Society, yes even free ones like this, depend on basic laws and societal standards to exist.

Indeed. And we as a society have determined that there is an appropriate age for guns, smokes and booze, and that sellign to those below that age is illegal... but that this does not mean that those above that age are automatically assumed criminals.

What's wrogn with using the same sort of laws for pot as we have for booze... and vice versa?


141 posted on 09/05/2006 11:32:11 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
The reason this country is falling apart is because we are becoming a lawless, anything goes society

25 million Americans have illegally smoked pot in the past year, and 15 million in the past month. A few hopeful posters here to the contrary, we don't (yet) have the national mentality to actually prosecute this and send all these people to prison.

So we continue to do what's been failing for decades. The few traffickers we catch go to prison, a few hundred thousand particularly unlucky or stupid users who get caught usually get off with community service and court costs, and the other 24.5 million dopers break the law and discover that nothing happens.

This is the death of our foundational laws and standards. Not lack of law, but surfeit of law such that people learn empirically that the law is BS.

168 posted on 09/05/2006 12:25:20 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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