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Schwarzenegger Is Pushing This Republican Into The Undecided Column
FlashReport ^ | 9/4/06 | Matt Cunningham

Posted on 09/04/2006 10:19:40 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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To: FairOpinion
Why didn't Arnold ... make California's deficit just disappear?

Because he didn't want to.

He could have stopped the deficit dead in its tracks without violating any constitutional provisions or running afoul of legilstive formulas. He simply chose not to cut spending to match revenues.

He did the opposite. He proposed and approved double digit increases in state spending, even in the face of insufficient revenue and ... only weeks after saddling the General Fund with $4B in increased operating expenses.

221 posted on 09/04/2006 6:51:37 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: calcowgirl
Introducing facts into these discussions will not be tolerated!

Keep it simple. Keep it stupid.

222 posted on 09/04/2006 6:55:09 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I'm glad to hear that you are reasonable and I am sure many are.
I can also assure you that all are not like you and every election there are teens of libertarians talking about someone not being conservative enough (or pure) and about voting down a hole for the third party candidate due to principles. (Just like Ross Perot with Bush and Clinton, which got us Clinton.)
I HOPE there is more thinking going on this election. People should learn form Perot IMO.


223 posted on 09/04/2006 7:04:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: calcowgirl
Mojave and calcowgirl are not the same poster. Thanks.

HAHAHA

Imagine that. Two conservatives who have similar views.

224 posted on 09/04/2006 7:05:54 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a drowning man needs an anvil.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
... The poster already told you a million times that he doesn't support Angelides

So why does he continue to try and help him?

225 posted on 09/04/2006 7:07:52 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Amerigomag
Introducing facts into these discussions will not be tolerated!

I'm sorry... but I like facts!

I'm still waiting to see those Secretary of State statistics showing that "conservatives stayed home" in the special election. Of course, there is no such thing, but I sure wish there was. I'm pretty sick of the campaign spiel. First they run a totally inept campaign antagonizing the electorate, then the same campaign hacks blame conservatives for the resulting failure. Quite the slick propagandists!

226 posted on 09/04/2006 7:10:57 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Amerigomag

I'll support Republicans any day of the week against liberal Democrats. That includes RINOs. In many parts of the country RINOs are a reality and always preferable to more liberal Democrats.

But my statement was not limited to Republicans. It simply stated a basic element of comparative politics: "... always elect the lesser of evils and never help democrats get in power - ever."


227 posted on 09/04/2006 7:18:46 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Sorry, I don't vote for liberals, regardless of the party.

You may as well never vote then because every politician has some "liberal" in them on some issue. No politician ever agrees with you 100% on every single issue. Elections in the real world are always a comparative choice of the lesser of evils. That's how it will always be to the day you die.

228 posted on 09/04/2006 7:21:29 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Amerigomag
Because of the politics. People like spending but no one likes cuts. Otherwise politicians would be for getting spending under control. Its not rocket science what's happening in the California election. They're for what's popular instead of what's needed for California's future.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

229 posted on 09/04/2006 7:25:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ElkGroveDan
If they're both female with the same IP location, that would be a surprise. Admin has confirmed they're separate persons. Its easy to fake a handle but no one can fake their IP address. Its a dead giveaway.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

230 posted on 09/04/2006 7:28:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Carry_Okie
Have you noticed the canned quality of his responses? Makes you wonder if there's a live person on the other end of the account.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

231 posted on 09/04/2006 7:29:47 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
I've noticed non-conservatives in this party are quick to demand our loyalty but they never return the favor. Aren't you sick and tired of the double standard? I am! If they want support, its not an entitlement, it should be earned.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

232 posted on 09/04/2006 7:32:21 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
I brought up that term because it seems to me its like they're programmed with a certain set of lines that never varies. After awhile, it becomes tiresomely familiar. You're right in all we're asking is for the Governor to be true to what he joined this party for. If he can't advance its goals, then he should leave for the other party. We're not asking for the moon, just what is humanly doable. And conservative objectives can certainly be reached with a good amount of human effort. That's what those of us on here are asking of Arnold. The real question is if any one in his campaign is listening.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

233 posted on 09/04/2006 7:37:22 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FairOpinion
Just think of what Republicans occupying the state's other constitutional offices can achieve. We have the opportunity to elect REAL conservatives to top state jobs and you dismiss them as unimportant. They'd keep Angelides' feet to the fire if he won. And for the umpteenth time, no I am NOT voting for Angelides. The fact I don't support Arnold doesn't mean I'm thrilled about his opponent.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

234 posted on 09/04/2006 7:41:32 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FairOpinion
We expected the Governor to come up an intelligent program to cut spending and bring the state government into the 21st Century. One election defeat and he's given up on the whole thing!

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

235 posted on 09/04/2006 7:43:17 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: FairOpinion

I see it took the Arnold Spam Patrol only 5 minutes to get here. Good work!


236 posted on 09/04/2006 7:43:47 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Muzzies travel on their own airlines so they don't endanger the rest of us.)
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To: goldstategop

"76 percent said there was "something" to be angry about in the country today"

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Dream on. Last I heard, all the downticket R-s are going down in flames, as they did in 2002. Their only chance is, if Arnold gets elected, and he has coattails. YOU are the one who want to deny them the possibility of being elected, by campaining against Arnold. The governor is the big ticket office to vote for, if people don't bother to vote for that, they most likely stay home. People aren't going to rush out to vote, for the opportunity to vote for treasurer.

You are trying to demoralize the base, so they stay home, Angelides wins, all downticket R-s go down in flames and all leftist propositions pass. I am sure you will be very happy.


237 posted on 09/04/2006 7:49:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: goldstategop
Makes you wonder if there's a live person on the other end of the account.

Naah, a computer would be more sophisticated.

238 posted on 09/04/2006 7:53:22 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Angelides v. Schwarzenegger is like deciding between ebola and cancer, respectively.)
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To: plain talk
I prefer:

Always vote for the most conservative candidate but never directly help a liberal get into power. Accept the responsibilities of participating in a democracy, be leery of those political organizations that demand your complete loyalty and realize that a thoughtful, single vote was both earned and appreciated by the candidacy which the vote affirmed.

239 posted on 09/04/2006 8:37:49 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: calcowgirl

140 bills!!!!!????

But there is no "gay agenda", is there?

Sheesh. California's in worse shape then I thought.


240 posted on 09/04/2006 8:47:40 PM PDT by bordergal (John)
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