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Inside the Twin Towers - Discovery Channel Special - Live Thread
Discovery Channel ^ | 9/3/2006 | n/a

Posted on 09/03/2006 5:19:29 PM PDT by Pyro7480

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To: patriot_wes
...Yea right! ...<

Didn't have to melt the steel for it to fail.

The steel in the floor trusses softened enough for them to begin to collapse.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html?page=4&c=y

41 posted on 09/03/2006 6:36:54 PM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: SleekMaid

#&%$ing terrorist scum. They all need to die. If that was his baby, then a daddy was lost.


42 posted on 09/03/2006 6:36:56 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: WoodstockCat

She worked in the Towers, and left before 9/11.


43 posted on 09/03/2006 6:37:34 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Doc91678

wtc.nist has the facts and is an exhaustive report that doesn't deal in hyperbole and wishes.
I recommend it to everyone for reading and understanding the impact, the fuel factor, how much fuel burned outside the building, the path of the fires after the impact.


44 posted on 09/03/2006 6:39:41 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
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To: WoodstockCat
I left a few months before 9/11 to start my own business.

Had survivors guilt while watching the towers fall from my apartment balcony.

45 posted on 09/03/2006 6:44:27 PM PDT by SleekMaid
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To: FReepaholic

It's worth noting that besides the weakening of the steel at high temperatures, that the steel also expands significantly. This places huge undesigned-for stresses at the connections (like where beams tie into columns). You get a failure going on one beam, weight gets transferred to the adjacent beams, they fail, etc, and the whole thing comes down.


46 posted on 09/03/2006 6:44:46 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Pyro7480
F%$#(*g Muslims. I'm watching now.

Everyone needs to be reminded often.

Religion of Peace, my @$$.

ML/NJ

47 posted on 09/03/2006 6:44:59 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Pyro7480
#&%$ing terrorist scum. They all need to die. If that was his baby, then a daddy was lost.>>>>

His daughter Lisa worked at AON with him. She lived.

Cant imagine her pain.

48 posted on 09/03/2006 6:46:18 PM PDT by SleekMaid
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To: SleekMaid
AON Corporation
49 posted on 09/03/2006 6:48:26 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: patriot_wes

So are you one of the believers in the conspiracy theories???


51 posted on 09/03/2006 6:50:05 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: patriot_wes
Otherwise, even if the temperature of the fire had been as great as 1,000 degrees C, which it was not, the collapse would have involved gradual and asymmetrical sagging and buckling, not the complete, total and abrupt destruction (from the top down) that was actually observed.

You have heard of weight, right? It wasn't just steel up there.

52 posted on 09/03/2006 6:51:44 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: patriot_wes

take your "controlled demolition" crap back to DU you scum...


53 posted on 09/03/2006 6:52:00 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
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To: bannie
I saw that documentary. It was filmed by two French guys shadowing a engine company. Very vivid and very graphic. When it first aired in 2002, it was like watching the whole thing live again. Watching the scenes in the lobby of one of the towers where a NYFD chaplain was wandering around praying quietly, while bodies thumped on the sidewalk outside, and the company lieutenant tried to establish a plan, was shocking to the core. It was the chaplain that really struck me..
54 posted on 09/03/2006 6:57:21 PM PDT by cardinal4 (America, despite the usual suspects, stands firmly with Israel..)
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To: cardinal4

those thump and thuds every minute are absolutely chilling.


55 posted on 09/03/2006 6:58:36 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
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To: WoodstockCat

Im getting angry just watching. And we have a DU troll on here to boot..


56 posted on 09/03/2006 7:00:22 PM PDT by cardinal4 (America, despite the usual suspects, stands firmly with Israel..)
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To: cardinal4

He's been on here since '99, so in the years since, he has drunk the Kool-Aid.


57 posted on 09/03/2006 7:01:00 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: WoodstockCat
This show is hard to watch.

Those poor firefighters had to walk up carrying hundreds of pounds of gear.

They would have been exhausted by the time they got to the fire. Too tired to fight it.

Several years ago, I wrote to the NYC Fire Commissioner suggesting that the fire department pre-position fire fighting equipment every 10 or 15 floors in high-rise buildings.

They could then send "quick-response" teams that were'nt laden with heavy gear, up to the pre-positioned equipement in order to fight the fire.

58 posted on 09/03/2006 7:01:50 PM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: patriot_wes

It has been well documented how damage to the flimsily bolted floor supports weakened them enough to fail. insufficient fire protection that had been just sprayed on. nothing had to melt since steel loses most of its strength well before that temperature.


59 posted on 09/03/2006 7:02:33 PM PDT by omega4179 (What have you done to help moderate muslims bring Islam into the 9th century?)
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To: All
This has been posted before, but I think it should be heard daily.

Before you click this link, know that you will witness the death of Kevin Cosgrove and 3 others in real time.

The MSM keeps asking, "is it too soon for a movie, is it too soon to relive that terrible day?" Hell yeah it's too soon, it is too soon for us to not be still angry, it is too soon for us not to still be demanding revenge!

The truth about 9/11 is that 3,000 Americans died, many begging for their lives, in more fear than anybody should ever have to live through, and they died very slow, horrible deaths.

http://www.nothingtoxic.com/media/1153567378/Chilling_911_Call_From_the_World_Trade_Center

60 posted on 09/03/2006 7:03:43 PM PDT by txroadkill
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