[Wonder Warthog]

"An acorn is not an oak."

But it will be.

Here's the science. At conception, a biochemical reaction starts that aggregates elements from the environment around itself, forming a distinct human individual. That biochemical process continues until, for whatever reason, the unique individual in question can no longer sustain the process (i.e. death). There are only two distinct "end-points" in that process. You can piss and moan all you want about "clumps of cells" not being human, but that doesn't change the science. Those two points are the only ones that can be uniquely identified.

[jas3]

An acorn is not an oak.

But it will be.

Actually it is quite unlikely that any acorn will become an oak tree.

On average a single oak tree will produce well over 100,000 acorns over its life. And on average only one acorn will mature into a tree given that the oak tree population is roughly stable.

Here's the science. At conception, a biochemical reaction starts that aggregates elements from the environment around itself, forming a distinct human individual. That biochemical process continues until, for whatever reason, the unique individual in question can no longer sustain the process (i.e. death).

That is horrendously poor explanation for what happens at and after conception. "...aggregates elements from the environment around itself..." ??? Really? By elements, do you mean compounds? Or does the blastosphere actually "aggregate elements"? I suspect your claims to understand the biochemical processes at conception are highly exagerated. Can you explain the thermodynamics of cell division? Do you know what the source of a blastosphere's energy is? Can you explain how cell differentiation functions?

There are only two distinct "end-points" in that process. You can piss and moan all you want about "clumps of cells" not being human, but that doesn't change the science. Those two points are the only ones that can be uniquely identified.

Huh? I would ask you to detail your science background at this point. Do you have any relevant coursework in biochemistry? What texts did you use? Where did you study? I don't think you have even the most rudimentary understanding of cellular metabolic pathways or genetics.

I'm not moaning at all, but I am asking people who have a fundamentalist view to explain their reasoning. So far your attempts to hide behind science include one statement in which belies your ability to even distinguish between an element and a compound.

jas3