Posted on 09/03/2006 10:03:43 AM PDT by meandog
GUADALAJARA--I'm wondering. Help me wonder. Either Georgie Bush is the minor, depressing, witless ferret I think he is, or I am. It has to be one or the other. If things don't start looking up pretty soon internationally, I'm going to be pretty sure which.
As best as I can tell, what the Maximum Cipher lacks, among an inexhaustible list of other things, is a hop toad's understanding of how people work. Here we have the explanation of just about everything he does. He's dealing with a world full of people, but has no idea what people are. He probably couldn't recognize one. So he doesn't take their predictable behavior into account.
Think about it. When he went braying into Iraq, he thought people would roll over, throw flowers, and have a democratic revolution. This would start a domino effect that would make all the other Muslim countries want to be democracies, too. They would climb over each other to be democracies. They would love us because democracies love each other. He just knew it.
This makes perfect sense if you have no flipping idea how human beings work.
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A little bit of freedom is a dangerous thing. Especially when you try to stuff the cork back in the bottle after you have opened it.
The world population has not yet reached 8 billion.
The President has made it abundantly clear that establishing a self-governing democracy in Iraq is our goal, and to do that we must pacify and educate scores of Iraqi politicians and policing personnel. THAT job is exactly what our courageous military is about right now in Iraq. They need most of all that we let them know we support their efforts, rather than sending them the defeatest messaage the democrap party is depending upon to empower them in the 2006 elections.
Don't help the democrats defeat our resolve by pretending the Presidnet and his Sect. Of Defense haven't conveyed their strategy in Iraq. The democrats have a strategy for Iraq, also: cut and run for cover and hope that the world of murdering Islamist don't notice and become even more emboldened by our running away in democrat triumph, leaving the Iraqi people do suffer the murderous Iranian plan for Iraq.
Agreed :)
An interesting point. Care to explain why Japan is our friend, whereas Iraq is not?
The answer does have to do with force, by the way.
So Pat Buchanan has taken a pen name and moved to Mexico.
Where is the barf alert?
Another WWII reference. Do you see the main difference between our defeat of the Axis powers and our defeat of Iraq, the respective occupations, and the post war results?
"Saudis, my god they still have kings and princes."
mmm England?
I do agree there. Freedom is very dangerous to people who neither understand nor care about consequences.
AND SO WE CAME TO 9/11. On that unforgettable Tuesday morning, a series of ugly events occurred. Unspeakable death and destruction that produced terror and fear and, soon thereafter, the birth of a pernicious cliche. It was said and then repeated and then echoed and then chanted that "9/11 changed everything." Never underestimate the power of clichE to sweep all argument before it. In Washington at least, 9/11 did seem to change everything. Less than a year earlier, George Bush had been elected President on a foreign policy platform with three planks: (1) that the U.S. would not act as the world's policeman; (2) that the U.S. would be humble before the nations of the world; and (3) that the U.S. would not engage in nation-building. Taken together, these three planks added up to a conventionally conservative approach, a platform that had been roundly endorsed by NR. Now, with a 180-degree whiplash, the Bush administration began to rumble about "regime change" and "going it alone," and "building a democratic Iraq." Call this 9/12 approach whatever you will -- utopian, neoconservative, Wilsonian -- it could not fairly be characterized as "conservative."
Well, that's where I also stand...but I just do not believe that he's got the sand to completely commit to fighting a war on ALL Islamists (Iran, currently the chief culprit but Syria and, probably one day, Saudi Arabia, Yeman, Jordan, and even Egypt included). I've seen inconsistencies already and I was burned by his "Read My Lips" old man and have concluded that coitus interruptus, in the case of the GWOT, is in his DNA!
Of course, if you have read any history, which Bush hasn't, you will have noticed that people do not like being occupied by force. They don't like having their cities bombed. It galls them. It can, under certain circumstances (such as any circumstances) make them hostile.
Kinda like Japan, Huh?
Ya learn something new around here everyday.
There's a lot of Shi'ite and Kurdish mass graves who's residents would beg to differ with you on that count.
Stripped of the inflammatory (and unnecessary) rhetoric, what he's saying is simply the old adage: You can't help people who don't want to help themselves.
Last I checked, historically Libya was a major state sponsor of terrorism until the Iraq invasion. Better Qadaffi makes a few extra bucks exporting more oil instead.
...and right into Iranian influence. Vote Hizbullah, vote often.
Wrong. That influence was there all along via Syria. Hiz got only 20 percent of the vote - they are influential only because of their outside sponsors.
Oh, and regarding Saudi Arabia and Kuwait - they are also protected by their oil wealth. The best way to reduce that protection is to add more oil production. Once Iraq is stabilized, they will be in a position to compete with the Saudis for production capacity. That way, the next time the Saudis threaten to cut off the flow of their oil in response to political pressure, we can tell them to go ahead and do it - and see what happens.
"Bush-bots" have learned to recognize a smart arse piece by a glib wannabe Jonnie Dollar and move on. As one poster suggested, this man most likely has an agenda; I believe that to be more than just a possibility……..
Thanks for your post - saved me typing time. Have a good Sunday!
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