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Eight billion mysteries stump the little man in the big White House
Free-Lance Star ^ | 9.2.06 | Fred Reed

Posted on 09/03/2006 10:03:43 AM PDT by meandog

GUADALAJARA--I'm wondering. Help me wonder. Either Georgie Bush is the minor, depressing, witless ferret I think he is, or I am. It has to be one or the other. If things don't start looking up pretty soon internationally, I'm going to be pretty sure which.

As best as I can tell, what the Maximum Cipher lacks, among an inexhaustible list of other things, is a hop toad's understanding of how people work. Here we have the explanation of just about everything he does. He's dealing with a world full of people, but has no idea what people are. He probably couldn't recognize one. So he doesn't take their predictable behavior into account.

Think about it. When he went braying into Iraq, he thought people would roll over, throw flowers, and have a democratic revolution. This would start a domino effect that would make all the other Muslim countries want to be democracies, too. They would climb over each other to be democracies. They would love us because democracies love each other. He just knew it.

This makes perfect sense if you have no flipping idea how human beings work.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: assclown; asspacker; bravosierra; bush; drunkhack; fredreed; fredthewitlessferret; freedred; friedreed; homosexualagenda; iraq; moron; mrnoname; tacticalnukestrikes
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To: meandog

LOL


121 posted on 09/03/2006 11:29:18 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: middie
Shhhh, quiet, your ignorance of WW II political and military history is showing.

Hint - perhaps you can point out ANY serious political resistance to WWII after Pearl Harbor before declaring my ignorance. Or do you just like calling someone ignorant without backing it up?

122 posted on 09/03/2006 11:30:26 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: meandog

His biography says, "He is by all accounts as looney as a tune." You think his article is making "common sense"? Maybe you purposely forgot the sarcasm tag because you're bored and wanted to stir things up a bit today?


123 posted on 09/03/2006 11:31:01 AM PDT by Chena ("I'm not young enough to know everything." (Oscar Wilde))
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To: Steel Wolf
Another WWII reference. Do you see the main difference between our defeat of the Axis powers and our defeat of Iraq, the respective occupations, and the post war results?

There are many differences, none of which are dispositive on whether or not attacking Iraq as a battle in the WOIF's was a mistake as this moron you support seems to think. The moron claims that history tells us that killing our enemies and then occupying their country for a time can not have a positive outcome. He uses that in an affort to persuade that the war in Iraq was a mistake. His logic sucks. Entiendes?

124 posted on 09/03/2006 11:31:11 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: litehaus

and


125 posted on 09/03/2006 11:33:04 AM PDT by italianquaker (Democrats and media can't win elections at least they can win their phony polls.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

I've been a fan of FredOnEverything.net for a long time.

Don't always agree, but he's usually pretty entertaining.

Mark


126 posted on 09/03/2006 11:36:31 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: jwalsh07
The moron claims that history tells us that killing our enemies and then occupying their country for a time can not have a positive outcome. He uses that in an affort to persuade that the war in Iraq was a mistake. His logic sucks. Entiendes?

The Japanese were faced with us, or death. The Germans were faced with us, or the Soviets (arguably worse than death).

The Iraqis aren't faced with anything but us. Sure, it's a rough neighborhood, but no rougher than it's ever been.

They're glad Saddam is gone, but as irrational and illogical as it clearly is, they don't consider us much of an improvement. So, the factors that made our victory over the Axis possible aren't in play here. The Iraqi people have nothing to lose by resisting us, and as a matter of national pride, have much to gain.

Capiche?

127 posted on 09/03/2006 11:39:01 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: dirtboy
LOL! Your story keeps changing. First you said that they planned to sabatoge their oil wells a couple of years ago. Then you changed your story and point to the Arab Oil Embargo 33 years ago.

The two are not mutually exclusive, dude. You keep shifting the points of debate.

No, I simply corrected your false statement that the Saudis planned to sabotage their oil wells a couple of years ago. It was Al Qaeda that actually threatened to sabotage the Saudi oil fields.

As far as the debate on the Saudis and the WOT, they have been on our side both in Iraq and against Al Qaeda. In both cases they have increased oil production during critical time periods in the fight against Iraq and Al Qaeda.

(Now if you want to debate about Hamas and Hezzbollah versus Israel and the Saudi position...that's a different story.)

128 posted on 09/03/2006 11:40:06 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Steel Wolf
Tell it to the Kurds.

Your spouting nonsense, the same nonsense that left wing loons and bearded expatriots living in a country invading our borders spout.

Our invasion of Iraq was not for altruistic purposes alone. The invasion was for many reasons not the least of which was the confluence of Islamic fascist nuts and Husseins propensity for WMD.

Aside from that you've done a miserable job of rehabilitating Reeds assinine claim that history teaches us that killing and occupying our enemies can not have a positive outcome. Tough job though, glad I'm not you.

129 posted on 09/03/2006 11:45:54 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: meandog
I'm wondering. Help me wonder. Either Georgie Bush is the minor, depressing, witless ferret I think he is, or I am. It has to be one or the other. If things don't start looking up pretty soon internationally, I'm going to be pretty sure which.

As best as I can tell, what the Maximum Cipher lacks, among an inexhaustible list of other things, is a hop toad's understanding of how people work. Here we have the explanation of just about everything he does. He's dealing with a world full of people, but has no idea what people are. He probably couldn't recognize one. So he doesn't take their predictable behavior into account.

Help me out here, Fred: Which one of you's the guy who's halfway through his second term as president, who served a term and a half as governor of Texas before that, and has been married to a good woman for almost thirty years, and which one of you's the divorced hack, marinating his brain in margaritas in semi-retirement in Guadalajara after a middling career in journalism? (My apologies for insulting middling journalists.) The answer to that is, in my opinion, the answer to which of you has the better working knowledge of human nature. I'd give you the answer, but I think you already know.

130 posted on 09/03/2006 11:48:01 AM PDT by RichInOC (George W. Bush is smarter than a lot of the people calling him stupid.)
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To: meandog

Like most loons, Reed's thesis is predicated upon lies.

He answers his question rather promptly ... it is he who is the depressing, witless ferret.


131 posted on 09/03/2006 11:48:04 AM PDT by jwfiv
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To: dirtboy
Hint - perhaps you can point out ANY serious political resistance to WWII after Pearl Harbor before declaring my ignorance. Or do you just like calling someone ignorant without backing it up?

There wasn't any serious political resistance for a reason.

That reason was probably because the Axis military was the biggest war machine on the planet, and it sent a fleet of aircraft carriers to punch us in the back of the head.

9/11, on the other hand, killed an similar number of people, but it was launched by 5,000 cave dwellers from a somewhat obscure terrorist group hiding in a country 96% of Americans couldn't find on a map.

Clearly, these two events were going to provoke different responses, politically and militarily.

132 posted on 09/03/2006 11:48:10 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: Steel Wolf
9/11, on the other hand, killed an similar number of people, but it was launched by 5,000 cave dwellers from a somewhat obscure terrorist group hiding in a country 96% of Americans couldn't find on a map.

Clearly, these two events were going to provoke different responses, politically and militarily.

Surely you jest? We have been at war with the Islamofascists since Jimmy Carter, having gutted the military to the point where we had no spare parts and no ammo for training, allowed the Iranian Revolutionary Guard (read Hizbullah) to humiliate and kill our people at their leisure.

133 posted on 09/03/2006 11:51:56 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: nctexan

Newt.


134 posted on 09/03/2006 11:53:08 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: meandog

He is a conservative kook!!


135 posted on 09/03/2006 11:56:26 AM PDT by dcnd9
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To: meandog

That the writer says the things he does, is perfectly understandable; what is less clear to me is why a hope-to-be-credible publication publishes such obvious personal attacks -- unless the editor wishes he wrote it himself, and usually edits it for even more powerful offense.

Letters editors receive stuff like this everyday -- but they also receive well-written pieces also -- which they unfailingly suppress, thus giving thoughtful readers the impression that no intelligent person reads or writes for that paper. That has been a driving force in the explosive growth of the alternative, new media and publications of the Internet -- as people desperately search for intelligent life in the universe.


136 posted on 09/03/2006 11:59:03 AM PDT by MikeHu
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To: Steel Wolf
That reason was probably because the Axis military was the biggest war machine on the planet, and it sent a fleet of aircraft carriers to punch us in the back of the head. 9/11, on the other hand, killed an similar number of people, but it was launched by 5,000 cave dwellers from a somewhat obscure terrorist group hiding in a country 96% of Americans couldn't find on a map.

Clearly, these two events were going to provoke different responses, politically and militarily.

Response A, 1941. Defeat the Japanesse and German war machine. Defeat those countries and their people.

Response B, 2001. Work with various willing countries and their willing people in the Middle East and around the world to defeat the terrorists in their own country. Remove dictators and replace with democracy any terrorist supporting country that refuses to cooperate ASAP. See Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan for positive results with Syria, Iran and (Lebanon) to follow.

Two different responses. Both are correct.

137 posted on 09/03/2006 12:00:35 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: MikeHu

Every newsroom in this country is apparently presided over by some third-rate mediocrity who has been banished to "edit" letters from the deranged people who have developed obsessions and delusions of relevance and self-importance with the various letters editors seething in their own resentment and bitterness towards obviously successful people.

That should not ruin their day.


138 posted on 09/03/2006 12:08:19 PM PDT by MikeHu
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To: dirtboy

Biographies of FDR, Truman, Ike, Churchill, Vandenberg, Warren, Jackson, Taft and Marshall and the several war bond drives 1940 - 1944 - - to name the ones that come to mind instantly, discuss precisely the internal politics of the WW II period. To attempt to use the legitimate debates that swirl around Bush's compulsion to attack Iraq and all of the many distictions that comprise a very real difference to any historical antecedent is a meaningless exercise in a mindless defense of ideology and party loyalty. It's undertaken by the same people who would be best described by the tale of the Emperor's New Clothes as fawning over the wonderful new invisible suit notwithstanding the boss'stark nakedness.


139 posted on 09/03/2006 12:08:41 PM PDT by middie
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To: AmishDude

It should also be noted that Japan had no history of democracy and a decidedly non-Western majority religion based in part on worship of the Emperor. Getting democracy there must have looked to be impossible in 1945. How, oh how, did we manage it?

1. The Japanese surrendered, and the emperor (who as you point out, was worshipped by the population) directed everyone to stop fighting.

2. There was one commander - General Douglas MacArthur - of the entire occupation effort, military and civil.

3. MacArthur worked to win the Japanese people over. “MacArthur himself arrived in Tokyo on August 30, and immediately set several laws: No Allied personnel were to fraternize with Japanese people. No Allied personnel were to assault Japanese people. No Allied personnel were to eat the scarce Japanese food.”

3. Numbers. By the end of 1945, more than 350,000 US personnel were stationed throughout Japan. Adding the British Commonwealth Occupation Force in February 1946 added 40,000 more.

140 posted on 09/03/2006 12:09:12 PM PDT by retMD
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