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Eight billion mysteries stump the little man in the big White House
Free-Lance Star ^ | 9.2.06 | Fred Reed

Posted on 09/03/2006 10:03:43 AM PDT by meandog

GUADALAJARA--I'm wondering. Help me wonder. Either Georgie Bush is the minor, depressing, witless ferret I think he is, or I am. It has to be one or the other. If things don't start looking up pretty soon internationally, I'm going to be pretty sure which.

As best as I can tell, what the Maximum Cipher lacks, among an inexhaustible list of other things, is a hop toad's understanding of how people work. Here we have the explanation of just about everything he does. He's dealing with a world full of people, but has no idea what people are. He probably couldn't recognize one. So he doesn't take their predictable behavior into account.

Think about it. When he went braying into Iraq, he thought people would roll over, throw flowers, and have a democratic revolution. This would start a domino effect that would make all the other Muslim countries want to be democracies, too. They would climb over each other to be democracies. They would love us because democracies love each other. He just knew it.

This makes perfect sense if you have no flipping idea how human beings work.

(Excerpt) Read more at fredericksburg.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: assclown; asspacker; bravosierra; bush; drunkhack; fredreed; fredthewitlessferret; freedred; friedreed; homosexualagenda; iraq; moron; mrnoname; tacticalnukestrikes
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To: meandog
Different time. If there had been this kind of criticism about the war against Germany and Japan, it would have been declared sedition and the critic would be tossed in jail...HOWEVER, WWII is apples to GWOT oranges

BZZT! War is war. You have to have a will to win one. FDR could NEVER have won WWII if his republican opponents had sandbagged him for every thing he did.

If it was a Dim (Gore or Kerry) in office and running the GWOT the same way as Bush, do you REALLY believe that we, on FR, would not be howling to the rooftops?

First of all, I have expressed issues with the Bush Admin's conduct of this war. I think Rummy's vision for a small, lean military is wrong. I think Bush needed to make this about Islamists long ago.

However, he is still willing to treat this as a war. Gore and Kerry would not be. So the question begs relevance, instead of an answer. The only Dems IMO would would be willing to fight a meaningful war have been driven out of the party.

101 posted on 09/03/2006 11:03:14 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: italianquaker

"This must be maureen dowd day".....AND....This is the "maureen dowd boy" writing ....


102 posted on 09/03/2006 11:03:19 AM PDT by litehaus (What is the speed of dark?)
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To: meandog

I can't image Gore or Kerry running a WOT... Evidently you can. Who would you call out as your preferred Machiavellian leader? (BTW Reagan's gone now)


103 posted on 09/03/2006 11:05:14 AM PDT by nctexan
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To: Steel Wolf
Facing annihilation as a result of their actions, the Japanese found a merciful conquerer who permitted them to surrender, helped them back on their feet and pledged to defend them.

I hate to tell you this, but we did a pretty damn good job annihilating them in the process. Just ask the 100,000 who got barbequed in the Tokyo firebombing.

I think the real problem nowadays is with the left and their return to the Chamberlain-ian notion that delayed war is somehow peace. In fact, they are worse than Chamberlain. Chamberlain sought peace in his time. Our Dems see the US as evil and seek it to be cut down several notches.

104 posted on 09/03/2006 11:05:59 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: meandog
I thought this guy was another liberal kook

Sounds just like a guy in the office who never finds anything anybody does even marginally useful. He himself is beyond such criticism since he never does anything at all.

105 posted on 09/03/2006 11:06:05 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: VictoryGal
Iraq is a deeply divided nation with at least 3 major warring factions, and the head was (however brutally) keeping those factions suppressed and balanced. We had NO plan for completely subduing the whole country and getting control of the factions after successfully deposing the ruler. But that ship has sailed.

Sailed? It's burning in the harbor, blocking our port. We're not debating a point of historical interest in the Peloponesian wars, here.

We got Saddam, we got the WMDs, such as they were, we got what we went into Iraq for. Our military is agile and fast, and was able to shatter the old Iraqi military and government in a few weeks. We're all over that, and we can do it pretty cleanly, too.

That's warfighting, not occupation. Forcing a new form of government on people that don't want it isn't a task for people not willing to get their hands dirty. The Iraqis are glad to be rid of Saddam, but that doesn't mean they still want us there.

106 posted on 09/03/2006 11:08:17 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: FreeReign
We threatened military action against the Saudis?

Gawd, please try to keep up. The Saudis use their oil production as a protection racket. They know they could send the global economy into a tailspin by turning off the pumps. And our leaders know it as well. They simply let it be subtly known that they would use oil as a response to excessive political or military threats, and we can't threaten them.

And I guess you missed the history of the oil embargo in the 1970s as proof they are willing to do such a tactic.

107 posted on 09/03/2006 11:08:20 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: meandog

You forgot Nepal.


108 posted on 09/03/2006 11:08:32 AM PDT by brothers4thID (Being lectured by Ted Kennedy on ethics is not unlike being lectured on dating protocol by Ted Bundy)
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To: Soliton

The answer to that question is easy but lengthy.


109 posted on 09/03/2006 11:10:09 AM PDT by middie
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To: kcvl
Oh THAT Fred Reed!

Thanks for posting the pic.

This guy is a major (MAJOR!!) lunatic who has or has had in the past super self gratifying web site wherein he expounds endlessly on his superlativeness....

He looks upon himself as this century's only remaining Beatnik...Kerouac reborn and on better drugs.

The incidental fact that he occasionally touches upon things others might agree with provides him his only cover and you can bet that the "Free Lance Star" didn't pay for the piece.

110 posted on 09/03/2006 11:10:50 AM PDT by norton
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To: dirtboy
They simply let it be subtly known that they would use oil as a response to excessive political or military threats, and we can't threaten them.

What is unreasonable about that?

111 posted on 09/03/2006 11:11:39 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Bush has on NUMEROUS occasions stated that he wanted Iraq to be ex Hussein, then a democratically elected government was to be established, then the military would be trained to take care of security and as they became able to do so, we would move our troops back, if not out of the country.

What part of this don't you understand?

"How"

If you have an answer, please forward it to Headquarters, MNF-I Baghdad, CENTCOM, or the U.S. Department of Defense.

It's a nice sounding vision, but there was no plan for it. The CPA totally botched the job, and the military had a lot of conflicting (or non-existant) orders on what it was supposed to be doing.

112 posted on 09/03/2006 11:17:04 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: Steel Wolf
What is unreasonable about that?

Where did I say it was unreasonable? To the Saudis, it is quite sane.

I was simply commenting that, if we are ever going to be able to apply serious political military or political pressure on them, we have to dilute their impact on world oil markets. And if we restore Iraq as a major producer, that is a step in that direction.

Of course, it would help even more if we developed ANWR and the eastern Gulf, and got serious about coal gasification.

113 posted on 09/03/2006 11:18:13 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: meandog
I didn't read the whole article when I realized it was criticism being leveled at America's leadership from a Mexican. George Bush has made mistakes but at least he has the courage to live in the U.S.

This Reed's biography, obviously written by him, qualifies him as a full-blown burned-out jerk and waste of human skin.

114 posted on 09/03/2006 11:19:13 AM PDT by Muleteam1
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To: meandog

FRied Red
BumP


115 posted on 09/03/2006 11:21:44 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: dirtboy
And I guess you missed the history of the oil embargo in the 1970s as proof they are willing to do such a tactic.

LOL! Your story keeps changing. First you said that they planned to sabatoge their oil wells a couple of years ago. Then you changed your story and point to the Arab Oil Embargo 33 years ago.

As I said, your above claim didn't happen.

116 posted on 09/03/2006 11:23:34 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: meandog
convert or die HOTAIR link from another thread

It is the muslims who don't understand people. An article just like this could be written but replace the name of Bush with muslim and then they become the clueless ones, the ones who don't understand people, who don't know people. It galls us to be bombed and then told to convert.

117 posted on 09/03/2006 11:23:37 AM PDT by Jason_b
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To: dirtboy

Shhhh, quiet, your ignorance of WW II political and military history is showing.


118 posted on 09/03/2006 11:23:41 AM PDT by middie
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Stripped of the inflammatory (and unnecessary) rhetoric, what he's saying is simply the old adage: You can't help people who don't want to help themselves.

This is the quote of the day, so far as I'm concerned.

119 posted on 09/03/2006 11:28:12 AM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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To: FreeReign
LOL! Your story keeps changing. First you said that they planned to sabatoge their oil wells a couple of years ago. Then you changed your story and point to the Arab Oil Embargo 33 years ago.

The two are not mutually exclusive, dude. You keep shifting the points of debate.

120 posted on 09/03/2006 11:28:54 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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