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To: ghostmonkey
Equal rights for all. That's what the Constitution of the US is supposed to support. However, the "gay agenda" does attract some people who agree with it. But again, at least on a federal level, most libertarians believe that this is a states' rights issue (are you starting to see a pattern here?)

You are incorrect here. No clause in the Constitution, none whatsoever, supports the homosexual agenda and it's attempts to redefine marriage, family and society. The Equal Protection clause was never intended to mean radical eglitarianism.

Exactly which section or clause in the Constitution refers to marriage at all? The federal government has no authority here whatsoever. However, the whole "Marriage Protection" rigamarole does come from something in the Constitution, which can impose one state's values on another. But it's not the equal protection clause. So it's being thrown back to the federal government, which really doesn't have the authority to make the decision either way.

The tack you're taking is an interesting one here... "No clause in the Constitution, none whatsoever, supports the homosexual agenda and it's attempts to redefine marriage, family and society." What you're saying is that "if it's not in the Constitution of the US, then the states and the public aren't allowed to do it." Sorry buddy, but that's 180 degrees out of whack with the 9th and 10th Amendments of the Constitution. The Constitution of the US is a legal document granting certain powers to the federal government. If it's not in the Constitution, then the federal government (though it's also been extended to the states in some ways) shouldn't be doing it.

Mark

80 posted on 09/03/2006 6:55:22 AM PDT by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: MarkL; ghostmonkey
The federal government has no authority here whatsoever. However, the whole "Marriage Protection" rigamarole does come from something in the Constitution, which can impose one state's values on another. But it's not the equal protection clause. So it's being thrown back to the federal government, which really doesn't have the authority to make the decision either way.

Some of these liberal-tarians forget, it is THEY who advocate “separation of church and state.” Let me cram it right back down their throats...

It was landmark U.S. Supreme Court precedent Reynolds v. United States in 1878 that made “separation of church and state” a dubiously legitimate point of case law, but more importantly; it confirmed the Constitutionality in statutory regulation of marriage practices.

Marriage is a religious rite, not a civil right...

Now, it ain't so palatable to them, is it? They are the ones here bashing the religious folks, now they want to claim some mercurial, ever changing definition of freedom of religion? I'm not going to live in their hell...

If I cannot yell “fire” in a crowded theater, I don't think someone should be able to light one with a U.S. flag and call it “free speech.”

Of course, a lot of these traitors to the United States would also whine if we wanted an Amendment to ban homosexual marriage or flag burning, wouldn't they?

There are doctrinaire, myopic cultural Marxists whose only purpose here on FreeRepublic is their polemic need to do anything contrary to the Christians. You will find most of them on the homosexual issue threads, the evolution threads, drug threads, genetic engineering threads or any other issue involving a perversion of, or attack on the Judaic book of Genesis.

Some of the Bozos out there can't get past that word “God,” so they would just piss the entire country away and join the enemies of America; all because they have this polemic need to bash the Christians and do everything in contravention to them. I say screw them and the filthy practices they want to live by. My children are not going to inherit their squalor if I can help it.

Of course, what a lot of the leftists and misguided, myopic liberal-tarians don't want to admit is that Christianity (and they do hate Christians) is just their politically correct proxy for their war against what is written in the book of Genesis.

They will jump up and down and snivel about the Ten Commandments and Christians; but the reminders that Moses was not a Christian, that Genesis, Deuteronomy and Exodus are Jewish literature really sticks in their craw. There are actually Marxist trolls here on FreeRepublic who cloak themselves in liberaltarianism and attack anything related to Genesis...

I could give you quite a list of their user names. They can be found a lot on the evolution, drug, genetic engineering threads, and have been bleeding over into the marriage issue threads. Their only purpose is to wage a psychological warfare on conservatives.

Some of the Bozos out there can't get past that word “God,” so they would just piss the entire country away and join the enemies of America; all because they have this polemic need to bash the Christians and do everything in contravention to them. I say screw them and the filthy practices they want to live by. My children are not going to inherit their squalor if I can help it.

Are all cultures equal? Hell no...

Only a cultural Marxist would think so.

89 posted on 09/03/2006 7:44:34 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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