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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
i do have substantial theological objections to incest, polygamy and so-called gay marriage.

No man can become a law unto himself under the guise of freedom of religion....

I have no theological argument... my personal view is strictly a secular matter of mammalian reproductive biology... homosexuals cannot reproduce and their idea of monogamy is a total phantasmagorical fetish...

We do have the right and responsibility to regulate people's actions, not their beliefs... this is why we do not have human sacrifice (unless you consider abortion as a ritual murder like I do).

205 posted on 09/03/2006 11:46:03 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood; freepatriot32; tpaine
No man can become a law unto himself under the guise of freedom of religion....

The word you're searching for is Autonomous, and such statements are an example of self-evident, absurd nonsense posing as 'wisdom'. In point of fact, every man is autonomous.

Consequences are irrelevant, they do not diminish the capacity for choice...no, i do not believe in the existence of free will, were that the case i would have said that man is sovereign.

We do have the right and responsibility to regulate people's actions, not their beliefs... this is why we do not have human sacrifice (unless you consider abortion as a ritual murder like I do).

With the noted exception of those who have not achieved their majourity, No such right exists, has never existed, and will never exist. No person has the "right" to regulate any other person. Governments are the only legitimate agency of force in existence. Governments have no rights at all. Governments have powers, a subtle but important distinction.

People have the right to do anything they wish, as long as it does not interefere with anybody else's rights. Government exists to mediate and arbitate situations where peoples' rights are violated, with force if necessary.

The individual is responsible to regulate his or her own actions. No agency of force or any other person has that responsibility. The individual is autonomous, and as such can choose to comply with regulation, or to ignore it, bearing what consequences that may come.

Any 'regulation' that does not cause harm, or violate the rights of another person is illegitimate.

217 posted on 09/06/2006 7:15:00 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord (I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper)
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