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To: defconw

It's come to the point, defcon, where it's best to just ignore the idiocy.

To begin with, we have a seriously unbalanced individual (P) who insists that he should have the right to own a flame thrower, just because he wants to, with the disingenuous caveat of "but that doesn't mean I'd ever use it". He defends this lunacy by pointing to the constitution (2nd Amendment) and ignores the fact that firearms regulations were enacted by legally constituted legislatures, with the consent of the governed, (which sounds an awful lot like constitutional-Republican democracy to me!). He feels that laws that he does not agree with can be disobeyed according to his whims. He then follows up by suggesting that anyone who disagrees with him is suffering from a mental disorder stemming from their irrational fear of weapons (he calls it hoplophobia. I'll check the DSM IV at my leisure to see if this really exists).

As for ReaganMan, a poll taken RIGHT HERE of other "conservatives" can be safely pooh-poohed because "it doesn't mean anything two years out". Yet, two years out, he rails against the possibility of Rudy getting any sort of consideration. On the one hand, speculation (i.e. a poll) means nothing, and on the other (speculation about a candidacy) means everything. Hypocracy, apparently, is something other people engage in. His real problem is that someone had the audacity to put "Guiliani" and "Conservative" in the same sentence, without grasping the context in which it was done.

As to whoever said I was "on a roll until the last two paragraphs", I merely speak the truth. If you can disprove the fact that this is the republican, not conservative, party, please do so. If you can prove that a small,lunatic fringe, is the core of this party, then please do so. If you can show a Congressional victory in the last six years that bolstered a conservative point of view or premise (and a pure one, at that; "Compassionate Conservatism" is a slogan, not a political movement), then please do so. From where I sit, the highlights of the conservative movement in the last six years seem to be limited to two nominations on a Supreme Court which has not done a thing since, the bigegst restrictions on political speech in American history, and passing a resolution in the middle of the night which ultimately failed to save a poor woman from having her feeding tube removed.

Show me a victory in the last six years that has seriously entrenched and advanced any conservative value which will not be reversed by any future democratic administration, and I'll be more than happy to agree with you that, perhaps, conservatism is not dead. However, it looks pretty much like it got buried right along with the Gipper (Requiesat in Pacem).


385 posted on 09/05/2006 4:36:03 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Islam: Turning everything it touches to Shi'ite since 632 AD...)
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To: Wombat101
"To begin with, we have a seriously unbalanced individual (P)"

As I recall, it is customary to ping those you talk about.
BTW, flamethrowers are legal. What I see in you is a petty little tyrant who wants to be the Decider for what others may possess.

"and ignores the fact that firearms regulations were enacted by legally constituted legislatures, with the consent of the governed,"

I take it you would support a ban on political speech if enacted by a "legally constituted legislature"?
387 posted on 09/05/2006 6:52:54 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: Wombat101
Something to cause you no end of heartburn....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1695833/posts?page=1#1

How dare these people have these things! Wombat101 doesn't approve. The nerve!
399 posted on 09/05/2006 10:58:36 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: Wombat101
To begin with, we have a seriously unbalanced individual (P) who insists that he should have the right to own a flame thrower...

Actually, I think he does.

I don't know of any states that outlaw them. Or weedburners and other devices.

For that matter, you can make one by filling a SuperSoaker with WD-40. Dozens of videos of people doing it as well as the more powerful types of flamethrowers.
YouTube

Before you denounce him yet again, why don't you post anything in state law or federal law forbidding ownership of flamethrowers?
400 posted on 09/06/2006 7:09:08 AM PDT by George W. Bush
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