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"Well a case can be made for just who hijacked this party from whom."

It just really burns you up that the conservatives started to take over the party in the 70s. You want "your" party back, don't you? You know, the party that didn't win. The party doomed to remain in the shadow of the Dems. The party of the Northeast liberals who didn't want to dirty themselves by actually being Democrats, but acted like them.

The party that Goldwater drove a stake into and Reagan hammered it home.

"I am a person who believes in most of the platform."

Rudy doesn't.

"Funny how the GOP had no problem allowing Rudy, Arnold, Pataki and others to speak to the Republican National Convention. "

The RNC (Republican National Committee) is not the Party, in the end. Pat Buchanan has spoken at the GOP Convention too...

"They are part of our party and I would suggest that if you are so unhappy go elsewhere"

If we do this, the Republicans lose and you'll only have your side to blame for it.

Rudy is pro-illegal, big-spending, pro-abortion, and pro-gun-control. There's nothing for a conservative to support there. At least the President has SOME conservative positions. Considering Rudy's personal opinions on the issues, I would have little confidence in any pledge to elect conservative judges, either. Basically, if Rudy loses in '08, the Democrats win. If Rudy wins in '08, the Democrats win. No sale.

It does not burn me up, because in the 70's you old coot. I was more worried about Capitan Kangaroo, then the Republican Party. It does bother me however that in order to get judges on the bench that understand central things like the sanctity of life etc. that I have to associate myself with the likes of you.

You have no discernible clue where Rudy stands on anything regarding the platform, but you have formed your opinion and think if you scream long enough and threaten to hold your breath all of us will care enough about you to cave in. Adult persons can disagree about things with out having a stroke. Maybe I do disagree with him on some things, but I agree with him on others. You get all your thoughts second hand and you have no way to know what is in his heart. Now you will call me a lib again because I recognize the political reality of NYC politics. That's OK it doesn't bother me.

As for your threat to take your little band of merry men out of our party and we will lose. LOL, nothing could be further from the truth. Minorities would be more then happy to take your place.

You also constantly make the mistake of thinking that only your opinion counts. Don't like Rudy fine. Don't get on Rudy threads. Seems pretty simple. How about showing some courage. Pick a candidate and post a thread and let's see what nasty crap we can find on him?

One thing I know for sure, that the more your type of conservatism tries to block out all other types of thoughts, and your litmus tests persist. The younger GOP will be more inclined to seek new avenues. To take a phrase from back in the day, "Lead, Follow, or get out of the way". I know it's a "liberal" thing. LOL Pathetic really that we can't discuss a GOP candidate on this from, without the haters.

It just really burns you up that the conservatives started to take over the party in the 70s. You want "your" party back, don't you? You know, the party that didn't win. The party doomed to remain in the shadow of the Dems. The party of the Northeast liberals who didn't want to dirty themselves by actually being Democrats, but acted like them.

An accurate portrait.