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To: One-Four-Five
"If you read the rest of my post, you see the factual errors & fallacies put forth by those who are so focused on their pet issues that they are not willing to support what we have seen to be an effective politician, and one who is not as liberal as some around here would have you think."

Bill Clinton was an "effective politician".

"And it's something that no other possible candidate has as much potential to do, given the opportunity."

Hardly.

"For those of you for whom this is an unimportant trifle, carry on. For those who haven't seen it enough times in these threads, I think you're due for another 'gun-grabbing, cross-dressing, baby-killing' cliche-spout. Have at it."

New Yorkers really do have way too high a view of themselves and their importance to the country. This is exemplified by the scorn for traditional conservatives just dripping from your post.
211 posted on 09/03/2006 11:42:47 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: Peisistratus

So childish name-calling is something that 'true conservatives' engage in? Forgive me, I thought true conservatives had a measure of dignity that allowed them to refrain from the sort of nonsense that I see so many rabid lefties engaged in.

I don't like it when it comes from either side, thank you very much.

How nice it is to know that not only am I not considered a 'true conservative' because I won't post the same pictures of Rudy in drag we see on EVERY one of these threads, nor agree that this name-calling is necessary, but expressing my opinion that this is childish nonsense that doesn't resemble civilized debate makes me a NYer who considers himself somehow above the rest of flyover country or something?

If you'd like to debate the issues, fine. Every single Rudy thread has the same name-calling & drag pics. Every one. Is that what true conservatism is about to you? Must flyover country stoop to that level rather than simply stating the reasons why they feel Giuliani does not represent their values or views, and they therefore are not willing to support him?

I guess that's SO difficult. Although it strikes me that most folks who don't support Giuliani have absolutely no need to resort to such juvenile antics. To them, I have no problem agreeing to disagree.

To the folks who throw around those terms, some of the others I mentioned, and post all this stuff about Bratton, Kelly, and others they haven't the first clue about based on the wildly incorrect assertions in their posts, thanks for reducing the debate to what it is around here. It's clearly in your interests to suggest that us NYers consider ourselves to be the sort of elitists & narcissists who don't give a damn about what the rest of the country thinks, because someone who believes Kelly was a Giuliani subordinate or that Bratton invented Broken Windows might actually believe what you're selling, too.

Enjoy the fantasy.


213 posted on 09/03/2006 11:54:33 PM PDT by One-Four-Five
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