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McGavick misstated details of DUI arrest (WA Senate race update)
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | September 2, 2006 | Neil Modie

Posted on 09/02/2006 4:23:35 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

U.S. Senate candidate Mike McGavick ran a red light, reeked of alcohol, failed a roadside sobriety test and fell asleep during police processing on a 1993 drunken-driving charge, according to a Maryland police report.

The report was obtained Friday from the Montgomery County, Md., Police Department. It suggests that McGavick, a Republican running against Democratic Sen. Maria Cantwell this fall, was less candid than he seemed when he disclosed the previously unknown arrest on his campaign Web site Aug. 24.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 2006; dui; mcgavick
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To: Hoplite
According to Wikipedia:

"Voltaire distrusted democracy, which he saw as propagating the idiocy of the masses."

But then Bill Buckley said he would rather be ruled by the Boston phone book, than the Harvard faculty.

Mix and match.

41 posted on 09/02/2006 7:29:27 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Clintonfatigued

At least he doesnt gamble.


42 posted on 09/02/2006 7:46:43 PM PDT by MassachusettsGOP (May the West and Republicans Always Win...)
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To: sionnsar
Did you have the opportunity to view the latest Washington absentee balot? Received the primary ballot today. Threw out the Independant, but the Democratic balot for Washington State Senator shows the following:

UNITED STATES SENATOR, VOTE FOR ONE:

"Michael Goodspace Guy Nelson, Mike The Mover, Mohammad H. Said, Hong Tran. MARIA CANTWELL, Write in (space)."

No wonder Cantwell continues with the popular Democratic Party vote!

43 posted on 09/02/2006 7:47:05 PM PDT by fuzzthatwuz
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To: Torie

McGavick knew this was a potential issue. So he brought it up now, right before the labor day weekend, on his timetable to minimize the political fallout.

I bet he has something good on Cantwell. And after she fails to bring it up herself, like he did, he will spring it about 10 days before the election--when not only the dirt itself will hurt, but the contrast between their behaviors.

McGavick is weak on some issues. He is certainly not my ideal candidate, ideologically. But he will be a hell of a lot better to have in the Senate than Cantwell is.

Some of the weak-kneed wusses on here really make me want to puke my guts out.


44 posted on 09/02/2006 7:53:24 PM PDT by TheConservator (Confutatis maledictis flammis acribus addictis. . . .)
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To: Torie
The point, I think, is not so much who the dead white guys were, but whether your audience hereabouts will grok any references from their bibliography.

All I'm saying is remember what happened to Dennis Miller on Monday Night Football.

45 posted on 09/02/2006 8:22:53 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: okstate
>>Time to shift resources out of WA and MN and into MD and NJ, in my opinion.

I agree. Put the $$$ where it will make a difference.

46 posted on 09/02/2006 8:27:38 PM PDT by vox_freedom (Matthew 5:37 But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no)
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To: Hoplite

God created a dictionary accessible online for a reason. I know, that some that read my posts have accessed, it. One chap did a google on me when I used the term "aeo instante" and found only my screen name came up. I probably misspelled it. I don't know the correct spelling. But I know the term is used. I know that because a professor of mine in my law school used it. I savored it, and it became part of my "vocabulary." And so it goes. Buckley got me flummoxed when he used esoteric theological Catholic terms, such as eristic, and sciolistic. I have popped them into some of my legal letters to opposing counsel, just to defray the ennui of it all.


47 posted on 09/02/2006 8:35:35 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Hoplite

By the way, Buckley is not dead, just nearly dead. Getting old sucks. I am against THAT.


48 posted on 09/02/2006 8:42:43 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Hildy
So you do something, you pay the price and 15 years later people still won't forgive you??? My God.

I was widowed by a .10 in 1994.  The destruction to a family by a drunk driver never goes away after the loss of an innocent life.  Tamara was only 26.   

Drunk drivers kill more than any other group domestically, the Islamofascists, gangs, and other trash get a pass on this topic.

49 posted on 09/02/2006 8:52:47 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: quantim

And the truth is that some republicans will NOT vote for someone with a DUI. That's what nearly sunk Bush in 2000, the moral conservatives who didn't like that he was a drunkard, didn't like being reminded, and didn't like that he lied about it by not coming clean about it.

The democrats will USE it as a weapon against republicans, but they have no principles, so they will happily trash a republican for drunk driving 15 years ago which DIDN'T involve a crash, while voting for a democrat who just ran his car into a barricade THIS YEAR.

Sometimes it sucks being a party with principles.


50 posted on 09/02/2006 9:11:08 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Sometimes it sucks being a party with principles.

More likely it's the principles that lack a party.

51 posted on 09/02/2006 9:19:43 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Bean Counter
If Washington Republicans allow Mike McGavick to be shot down in flames by the Seattle Media over something like this, they they frickin' deserve Maria Cantwell, and the complaining about her up there ought to stop!

Sheesh! This is King County. What makes you think we have any control over who wins the senate seat? Just look what we got for a governor!

52 posted on 09/02/2006 9:20:45 PM PDT by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: Pride in the USA

ping


53 posted on 09/02/2006 11:47:55 PM PDT by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

"The fact that the test was 83 minutes later does mean his level was probably higher earlier,"

No it doesn't. It all depends. But if one assumes he stopped drinking 30 minutes before his arrest then in all likelihood his BAC was higher after the 83 minutes than it was when he stopped drinking.


54 posted on 09/03/2006 4:32:46 AM PDT by ARW3A
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To: Clintonfatigued
It seems that the GOP does a poor job of vetting candidates for public office.

And not just in WA....

55 posted on 09/03/2006 4:34:34 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

As long as we have a mindset of no forgiveness for actions we've repented for, we will never get good people to run for office. I don't trust ANYONE who has NEVER in their lives had a little trouble. I mean it. IT's called life, you live it and you learn from it and from that experience you form your life values. A DUI 15 years ago, to me, is a forgivable act. As long as nobody was killed or injured and the punishment carried out. I thought we were a forgiving people. My mistake.


56 posted on 09/03/2006 7:37:05 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Dang! Hildy! ANOTHER agreement!!

As G-d knows...I've lived and learned my share!

57 posted on 09/03/2006 8:15:25 AM PDT by paulat
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To: Clintonfatigued

This is a non story. McGavick came clean about the DWI awhile ago, and this will be seen as a non-story by anybody but extreme leftist and disgruntled conservatives who are upset that not every candidate is exactly like Tom Coburn.

This story essentially says "McGavick didn't make his admission of his DWI as embarrassing as he possibly could." No S#!t. But he didn't lie about it or try to hide it, quite the opposite.

If we threw out everybody with a blemish on their record, we wouldn't have any politicians. Heck, we wouldn't have GWB.


58 posted on 09/03/2006 3:07:56 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Clintonfatigued

I know Diane personally and like her very much.

McGavick is, however, a better statewide candidate for a whole host of reasons, this doesn't change that.


59 posted on 09/03/2006 3:09:06 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz

There's nothing necessarily damaging about a 13 year old DUI -- it raises eybrows, but nothing else. The problem is that McGavick wasn't honest about it. That's a much bigger issue, and it seems entirely unnecessary. Why on earth would he reveal dirt on himself without taking the time to make sure his facts were straight? Seems awfully stupid.


60 posted on 09/03/2006 3:14:34 PM PDT by Alter Kaker ("Whatever tears one sheds, in the end one always blows one's nose." - Heine)
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