Posted on 09/02/2006 9:44:07 AM PDT by dervish
Yep!
Thanks for that; I was wondering if anyone had run progressions/regressions.
I wonder if the idjits realized that by stating such "signs" that they were actually asigning a date? Naw; the math, or even the concept, of predicting eclipes was beyond them.
YESWEDO
So he will be a 40 Y.O., stuttering, knee-slapping, lying, murdering, perverted pedophile, epileptic son of Satan, who looks just like somebody whom nobody knows what he looked like.
Should be easy to recognize in a crowd.
the math, or even the concept, of predicting eclipes was beyond them.
hardly - advanced mathematics and astronomy were highly developed in the mideast - especially in Babylon (Iraq) before the euros were much out of animal skins and caves.
I believe the story continues that Isa (Jesus) will confirm that Islam is the truth and the way for the world.
Perfect.
Wouldn't he have to be pureed, before he could be diluted?
For such a little squirt, I guess he would have to be diluted, or else he would only half fill the glass.
Not a bad idea, either way, however.
But NOT among MadMo's ignorant Arab tribesmen.
The ones whom it was not beyond, were conquered later, by his hordes.
You are the king. I bow to you oh anointed one of the comedysphere.
LMBOLMBOLMBOLMBO.
Good God, and to think I should be so sad since the new video just came out from the terrorists.
This thread has all the zanies in one place today.
Tip of the hat.
"He will speak with a slight stutter and occasionally this stutter will frustrate him causing him to hit his hand upon his thigh."
Alalalalalahu Akakakabar...unggghhh! slap!
Im the mahahahadi Dammit!
No, previous statements is that he is awaiting the return of the Mahdi
http://www.antimullah.com
The Signs of the Reappearance (Qiyam) of the (Imam) who
undertakes the Office (al-Qa'im), Peace be on him, the
Period of Time of his Appearance, an Explanation of his
Life and an Extract of what is revealed about his State.
Traditions have been reported mentioning the signs for the time of
the appearance of the Imam who will arise (qa'im), peace be on him,
and the events which will take place before his appearance, together
with the indications and features of it. Among them are: The Sufyani
will come out in revolt; the Hasanid will be killed; the Abbasids will
dispute over worldly kingdom; there will be an eclipse of the sun in
the middle of the month of Ramadan; there will be an eclipse of the
moon at the end of that month in contrast to ordinary happenings;
the land will be swallowed up at al-Bayda'; it will be swallowed in the
east-it will be swallowed up in the west; the sun will stay still from the
time of its decline to the middle of the time for the afternoon prayer; it
will rise from the west; a pure soul (nafs zakiyya) will be killed in the
outskirts of Kufa with seventy righteous men; a Hashimite will be
slaughtered between the corner (of the Ka'ba) and the station of
Abraham); the wall of the mosque of Kufa will be destroyed; black
standards will advance from Khurasan; al-Yamani will come out in
revolt; al-Maghribi will appear in Egypt and take possession of it
from Syria; the Turk will occupy the region of al-Jazira; the
Byzantines will occupy Ramla; the star will appear in the east giving
light just like the moon gives light; then (the new moon) will bend
until its two tips almost meet; a colour will appear in the sky and
spread to its horizons; a fire will appear for a long time in the east
remaining in the air for three or seven days; the Arabs will throw off
the reins and take possession of their land, throwing out the foreign
authority; the people of Egypt will kill their ruler and destroy Syria;
and three standards will dispute over it (Syria); the standards of Qays
and the Arabs will come among the people of Egypt; the standards of
Kinda (will go) to Khurasan; horses will come from the west until
they are stabled in al-Hira; the black standards will advance towards
them from the east; the Euphrates will flood so that the water comes
into the alleys of Kufa; sixty liars will come forward, all of them
claiming prophethood, and twelve will come forward from the family
of Abu Talib, all of them claiming the Imamate; a man of important
rank of the supporters of the 'Abbasids will be burnt between Jalula'
and Khaniqin; the bridge next to Karkh in the city of Baghdad will be
established; a black wind will raise it at the beginning of the day and
then an earthquake will occur so that much of it will be swallowed up;
fear will cover the people of Iraq and Baghdad; swift death (will
occur) there and there will be a loss of property, lives and harvests;
locusts will appear at their usual times and at times not usual so that
they attack agricultural land and crops and there will be little harvest
for what the people planted; two kinds of foreigners will dispute and
much blood will be shed in their quarrel; slaves will rebel against
obedience to their masters and kill their masters (mawali); a group of
heretics (ahl al-bida) will be transformed until they become monkeys
and pigs; slaves will conquer the land of their masters; a cry (will
come) from the sky (in such a way) that all the people will hear it in
their own languages; a face and a chest will appear in the sky before
the people in the centre of the sun; the dead will arise from their
graves so that they will return to the world and they will recognize one
another and visit one another; that will come to an end with twenty-
four continous rainstorms and the land will be revived by them after
being dead and it will recognize its blessings; after that every disease
will be taken away from those of the Shia of the Mahdi, peace be on
him, who believe in the truth; at that time they will know of his
appearance in Mecca and they will go to him to support him.
(These signs) are as the reports have mentioned. Among the total of
these events are some which are bound (to happen) and other which
are conditional. God knows best what will take place. We have only
mentioned them on the basis of what is recounted in basic sources of
tradition (usul) because of their inclusion in traditions which have
been handed down. From God we seek help and Him do we ask for
success.
http://al-islam.org/masoom/bios/12thimam.html
There's more at the site. Sorry about the format. No wonder the Mad Hatter wants to make it happen...if he waited, that infinite number of monkeys will have time to finish writing Hamlet.
[a trivial reformatting job]
The Signs of the Reappearance (Qiyam) of the (Imam) who undertakes the Office (al-Qa'im), Peace be on him, the Period of Time of his Appearance, an Explanation of his Life and an Extract of what is revealed about his State.
Traditions have been reported mentioning the signs for the time of the appearance of the Imam who will arise (qa'im), peace be on him, and the events which will take place before his appearance, together with the indications and features of it.
Among them are:
The Sufyani will come out in revolt;
the Hasanid will be killed;
the Abbasids will dispute over worldly kingdom;
there will be an eclipse of the sun in the middle of the month of Ramadan;
there will be an eclipse of the moon at the end of that month in contrast to ordinary happenings;
the land will be swallowed up at al-Bayda';
it will be swallowed in the east-it will be swallowed up in the west;
the sun will stay still from the time of its decline to the middle of the time for the afternoon prayer;
it will rise from the west;
a pure soul (nafs zakiyya) will be killed in the outskirts of Kufa with seventy righteous men;
a Hashimite will be slaughtered between the corner (of the Ka'ba) and the station of Abraham);
the wall of the mosque of Kufa will be destroyed;
black standards will advance from Khurasan;
al-Yamani will come out in revolt;
al-Maghribi will appear in Egypt and take possession of it from Syria;
the Turk will occupy the region of al-Jazira;
the Byzantines will occupy Ramla;
the star will appear in the east giving light just like the moon gives light;
then (the new moon) will bend until its two tips almost meet;
a colour will appear in the sky and spread to its horizons;
a fire will appear for a long time in the east remaining in the air for three or seven days;
the Arabs will throw off the reins and take possession of their land, throwing out the foreign authority;
the people of Egypt will kill their ruler and destroy Syria;
and three standards will dispute over it (Syria);
the standards of Qays and the Arabs will come among the people of Egypt;
the standards of Kinda (will go) to Khurasan;
horses will come from the west until they are stabled in al-Hira;
the black standards will advance towards them from the east;
the Euphrates will flood so that the water comes into the alleys of Kufa;
sixty liars will come forward, all of them claiming prophethood, and twelve will come forward from the family of Abu Talib, all of them claiming the Imamate;
a man of important rank of the supporters of the 'Abbasids will be burnt between Jalula' and Khaniqin;
the bridge next to Karkh in the city of Baghdad will be established;
a black wind will raise it at the beginning of the day and then an earthquake will occur so that much of it will be swallowed up;
fear will cover the people of Iraq and Baghdad;
swift death (will occur) there and there will be a loss of property, lives and harvests;
locusts will appear at their usual times and at times not usual so that they attack agricultural land and crops and there will be little harvest for what the people planted;
two kinds of foreigners will dispute and much blood will be shed in their quarrel;
slaves will rebel against obedience to their masters and kill their masters (mawali);
a group of heretics (ahl al-bida) will be transformed until they become monkeys and pigs;
slaves will conquer the land of their masters;
a cry (will come) from the sky (in such a way) that all the people will hear it in their own languages;
a face and a chest will appear in the sky before the people in the centre of the sun;
the dead will arise from their graves so that they will return to the world and they will recognize one another and visit one another;
that will come to an end with twenty- four continous rainstorms and the land will be revived by them after being dead and it will recognize its blessings;
after that every disease will be taken away from those of the Shia of the Mahdi, peace be on him, who believe in the truth;
at that time they will know of his appearance in Mecca and they will go to him to support him.
(These signs) are as the reports have mentioned.
Among the total of these events are some which are bound (to happen) and other which are conditional.
God knows best what will take place.
We have only mentioned them on the basis of what is recounted in basic sources of tradition (usul) because of their inclusion in traditions which have been handed down.
From God we seek help and Him do we ask for success.
"the Byzantines will occupy Ramla"
Interesting...
That's much better, many thanks!
Y'know, I'm pretty sure this stuff is like prophecy in general -- referring to stuff that was going on when the prophecy was made. But then, I've got some apostate in me...
It took the Arabs only ten years to fully dismantle Byzantine control over the lands of Jordan, Palestine and Syria. After two unsuccessful attacks against the Byzantine garrison town of Mu’ta (south of Amman, near Karak) in 629 CE, the Muslim Arab tribes regrouped for a much wider military operation. In the year 636 CE, the Muslim armies overran the Transjordanian highlands and won a decisive battle against the Byzantines on the banks of the Yarmouk River, which marks the modern border between Jordan and Syria. This victory opened the way to the conquest of Syria, and the remaining Byzantine troops were forced to retreat into Anatolia only a few years later.
http://www.kinghussein.gov.jo/his_islam_crusades.html
That's how 'prophecy' works IMO. Oral history becomes prediction.
"the Byzantines will occupy Ramla" is expecting the past to repeat itself.
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