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To: radu

Thanks.

Actually, the two eclipses ("two bows") aren't both in Ramadan. But the "prophecy" will never actually be literally fulfilled because (if I remember correctly) the solar eclipse would have to occur in the middle of Ramadan and the lunar one at the beginning. And that is backwards and definitionally impossible (solar eclipses are always new moons and lunar eclipses are always full moons, and lunar months begin with new moons with full moons in the middle).

A sun could be eclipsed during a full moon figuratively speaking (say by massive "clouds" that obscure the sun), but not literally. So it becomes an endless circle trying to determine if the "signs" fit for them (two eclipses with the solar in the middle), because however you cut it, they will have to fudge on it in some way to claim a fulfillment.

And I'm not sure that most Muslims believe in this particular "sign" (of the end times/the Mahdi's "return") any more than saying most Christians believe that the battle of Gog and Magog (what Muslims call "Yajuj wa Majuj") is the next step in a Christian prophetic calendar (eg. the premise of the "Left Behind" series), rather than in a very distant future (at the end of the Messianic millenial kingdom when Jerusalem is at peace and secure as spelt out in Revelation 20:8, Ezekiel 38-9, and Psalm 2 and therefore well over a thousand years from now), or that we await a "revived Roman Empire" (again, the premise of the popular "Left Behind" series) when Revelation 17:11 explicitly excludes that possibility (the "eighth king" belongs to the seven, but is one of the five empires that preceded Rome, not the "sixth" that ruled at the time of John) . Not trying to start an unrelated prophecy debate. Just illustrating that not all Christians believe the same things about prophecy, and the same applies to Muslims. The question is whether this particular segment of Muslim radicals believe this.

The interesting thing is that the lunar eclipse was on Sept 6/7 (at the announcement of the beginning of the 15-day window) and the solar eclipse will be on Sept 22/23 (the 15-day deadline and beginning of Ramadan).


543 posted on 09/10/2006 9:25:33 AM PDT by callmejoe
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To: callmejoe

You're welcome.
I made a point of saving the images that were posted in the initial thread. Like many others here at the time, I felt the images conveyed messages that, though WE may not have understood them, the radicals understood.

It's not easy to figure out what they may believe or not believe.............there's nothing logical about insanity. LOL! They've twisted other things to suit their needs and justify their attacks on the West so I don't expect them to change their mindset.

I haven't kept up with eclipses and didn't realize there was a lunar eclipse on the 6th/7th. Nor that a solar eclipse is coming up on the 22nd/23rd. Tends to shed a new light on the timing of al Masri's announcement.

And who's to say his message was only for his (and the dead Zarqawi's) followers in Iraq? We know Zarqawi sent some of his followers off to attack Americans elsewhere. The message could be aimed at ALL AQ followers. Why release it to the world if it was only intended for those in Iraq? When I first heard about this announcement, all the cell phone purchases across this country the past several months came to mind. Made me go "Hmmmmmmmm".

I've been following reports of thefts of law enforcement and emergency vehicles, uniforms (law enforcement and airline personnel), explosive materials, etc., and reports of what appear to be test runs for the past 4+ years and there is something big in the making. When they'll be able to pull it off is anyone's guess but the cell phones are kinda the last piece of the puzzle.

They've shown they are patient and when the time is right for them, they make their move. And the picture I see when I connect the dots...............there's simply no way to stop all of it.


546 posted on 09/10/2006 12:37:22 PM PDT by radu (May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
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