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Long but very informative article.
1 posted on 09/01/2006 10:08:20 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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Interesting, but as most shoulder-fired AA missiles are heat-seekers and would take out an engine, how relevant is throttles-only control for anti-terrorist defense?

Sure on a 4-engine plane (like a 747) it would still be
useful--if practiced with pairs of engines, but on a two engine plane wouldn't it be infeasible once one engine is out?


2 posted on 09/01/2006 10:13:56 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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Question: what does "throttles only" have to do with Kenyan port security?

This should have been written as two separate articles.

3 posted on 09/01/2006 10:18:23 AM PDT by robomurph
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Two small errors to me, originating from the same sentence ... "disaster ... a 1989 Sioux City crash in which a United McDonnell Douglas DC-10".

The guys who FLEW that plane to a small airport with ONLY throttles were heroes who saved MANY MANY lives. That the plane broke up on 'landing' (not crashing) and numerous people (too many of course) died does NOT diminish the FACT that the flight crew managed to bring the aircraft to earth in a manner that saved MANY MANY lives -- using only throttle controls. These guys turned a disaster into a tragedy. IT was NOT a disaster, and they did not 'crash'. Harrumph.

I'll google this and post a link.
4 posted on 09/01/2006 10:19:49 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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Could you fix the title of the article to read:
UPI Intelligence Watch:"Throttles-only airliner pilot training" instead of "Tthrottles-only". Thanks.


11 posted on 09/01/2006 10:30:33 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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Informative, yes, but the entire premise bugs the hell out of me. Here we are training our pilots to be on DEFENSE against Islamofascist scum. When do we go on OFFENSE and eradicate this threat to mankind? Then we wouldn't have to train our pilots on flying without hydraulics, take our shoes off to get on airplanes and be wary of muzzie drivers afflicted with Sudden Jihadi Syndrome.


23 posted on 09/01/2006 11:15:50 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
4 engine (B-747, DC-8, B707/720 series... worked great.....

3 Engine (DC-10/MD-11_ or L-1011) worked well enough...
3 Engine (B727... had manual reversion only...anyway!)

Only 2 Engines to play with (B-757/767/777 or Scarebus series) ... Both must needs be working well...
Techniques involve using underwing thrust and selective overwing spoilers for pitch control...

Any motor out without good flight control hydraulics...
No help... Ruh-Roh...

24 posted on 09/01/2006 11:34:49 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (All of the answers remain available; Wisdom is gained by asking the right questions!)
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