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To: RusIvan
Noam Chomsky is the great scientist.

Chomsky is not a great scientist. His work is great disrepute in his field because none of the three models he has presented work and he can show no evidence that they work.

The father of whole branches of modern mathematics.

Chomsky is not a mathematician. He is in the field of linguistics.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

If he critisizes Israel then maybe he should be listen.

Why? The fact that used to be considered a competent researcher in the field of linguistics doesn't mean he understands anything about ethics or history.

He won't say nothing unintellegent.

Chomsky says painfully stupid things every day. It's his signature.

Accually whole this article sounds like a pasquinade on the ideological opponents.

I'll give you a break, since your English is poor and you have no idea what the word "pasquinade" means. Here's a hint: if a piece contains actual quotes made by real people then it's not a pasquinade.

Some jews describe the policy of Israel as the ultra-nationalistic and against it.

We're not discussing those Jews. We're discussing Jews who hate the state of Israel and want to see it go.

Isn't Israel the national state for Jews with some discrimination toward non-jews?

All inhabitants of the State of Israel have the same civil rights under law. You are dead wrong.

I heard lately that in Israel there no marriges between jews and nonjews.

Then you're listening to idiots.

And non jews are berried on the different cemeteries then jews.

That's the case everywhere. In non-communist states where there is freedom of religion, people prefer to bury their dead among the dead of their own religion.

And privately-owned cemeteries can choose to bury or not bury whomever they want.

That's called freedom.

Israel is no different of other national states in the world.

Many national states are very different from one another. Iran is a national state and it has an evil, repressive, vicious government. Ireland is a national state and it has a decent, free and beneficial government. Israel is a national state like Ireland.

No surprise that some discrimination exsists there.

So why are you singling Israel out for abusive lies?

Bytheway the critics on Israel not always mean anti-semitism:).

If anyone is a critic of Israel in the sense of saying that Israel does not have the right to exist, then they are an anti-Semite by definition.

And you, my friend, are obviously an anti-Semite.

14 posted on 09/01/2006 7:07:31 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

Actually -- in the speech/language/hearing world Chomsky's stuff is still discussed/debated regularly. There are a number of adherents to his beliefs and a number who believe that parts of his work is accurate when combined with other's work.

Whoa, did that make sense? *rereads*

It's really hard for me to sit and class and hear about him *laugh* It's a constant thing though. *shrug* But what I've seen at the University level is not a wholesale discounting of his linguistics work, but rather an association of Chomsky with the "language acquisition device."

More later, I'm tired :) hehe


15 posted on 09/01/2006 7:11:44 AM PDT by twinzmommy
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To: wideawake

If anyone is a critic of Israel in the sense of saying that Israel does not have the right to exist, then they are an anti-Semite by definition.==

I agree that it is wrong.

Israel as the national state of Jews has to exist. But I think Israel isn't be covered from any critics. No need to call any critism as anti-semitism.


25 posted on 09/01/2006 8:21:55 AM PDT by RusIvan ("THINK!" the motto of IBM)
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To: wideawake
Agreed. We're not talking here about legitimate differences of view with Israel's policy. We're talking about illegitimate opposition to Israel's character as a Jewish State and to its existence. Every one knows there is a significant contrast between the two forms of critique of Israel. One advances the appreciation of her - the other is aimed at undermining her raison d'etre. In the latter respect, Jews like Noam Chomsky, who wish to see Israel destroyed, contribute nothing useful to the debate over the Jewish State. They are Jewish anti-semites to the core.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

36 posted on 09/03/2006 1:33:44 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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