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Gun Dealer Hits Bloomberg on Sting Operation
NY Sun ^ | August 31, 2006 | BRADLEY HOPE

Posted on 08/31/2006 12:25:35 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 08/31/2006 12:25:36 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

He targeted out-of-state sellers? How can he do that legally?


2 posted on 08/31/2006 12:34:43 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: neverdem

Most befitting a NYCity liberal. Like Rudy Giuliani, Mayor Bloomberg is follows in the footsteps of all the pro-gun control, anti-2nd amendment leftwing that is bound and determined to slowly undermine Americans Constitutional RKBA. Anyone who thinks the end goal of liberalism is not to have a total ban on firearms, is a fool.


3 posted on 08/31/2006 12:35:02 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

I agree completely.


4 posted on 08/31/2006 12:38:24 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: neverdem
"These historic settlements are unprecedented."

Rather than being a cause for celebration, that statement is tantamount to an admission that the Bloomberg administration is criminally corrupt and is abusing power by inventing crimes that no honest mayor in an earlier time would have dared to attempt.

5 posted on 08/31/2006 12:38:26 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: Abathar
How can he do that legally?

He probably can't - but why should silly things like "laws" get in the way of Bloomberg?

6 posted on 08/31/2006 12:39:52 PM PDT by The Electrician ("Government is the only enterprise in the world which expands in size when its failures increase.")
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To: neverdem; All
Here's the original story about the Woodhaven Rifle and Pistol Range and Mr. Michael Spallone:

Cops Close Gun Shop’s Doors (NYC)

7 posted on 08/31/2006 12:46:14 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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He targeted out-of-state sellers? How can he do that legally?

He can't. Bloomberg and his henchmen broke several laws during this debacle. Gun owners should be demanding that AG Gonzalez bring the scumbag up on charges.

8 posted on 08/31/2006 12:54:14 PM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Joe Brower; DaveLoneRanger; Mr. Mojo; Travis McGee

ping i hope they bankrupt the city with thier lawsuits and those two dealers that settled were complete idiots


9 posted on 08/31/2006 12:55:14 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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10 posted on 08/31/2006 12:56:08 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Abathar
People want more evidence that Rudy Giuliani is a liberal, remember what the Mayor said back in 2000.

"On June 20th, I was pleased to announce that the City of New York filed a lawsuit against two dozen major gun manufacturers and distributors."

LINK

11 posted on 08/31/2006 1:17:45 PM PDT by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't support amnesty and conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Reagan Man

Four years from now, FReepers will say Bloomie is a good Pres candidate, too, because he's popular (NOT!) and is a republican. Well, he sure is NOT a conservative, and neither is Rudy.


12 posted on 08/31/2006 1:20:25 PM PDT by Toby06
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***He targeted out-of-state sellers? How can he do that legally?***

Ha can't.

If AG Gonzalez - and Dubya - had any balls this little mope Bloomie and his 'private investigators' would be in Federal custody N-O-W. He wantonly violated dozens of Federal Laws in his little ILLEGAL sting operation. Not to mention state and local firearms laws.

The power mad s.o.b took the law into his own hands. He had ZERO legal authority -- period.

13 posted on 08/31/2006 1:26:36 PM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: The Electrician

Your point is well taken, especially the gradual shift toward totalitarian behavior that most citizens don't even notice.


14 posted on 08/31/2006 1:27:37 PM PDT by The Westerner
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15 posted on 08/31/2006 1:30:51 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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He targeted out-of-state sellers? How can he do that legally?

Simple. The government of New York City has annointed itself as our new federal government.

Starting next year you'll be paying federal taxes to them instead of Washington.

16 posted on 08/31/2006 1:33:29 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: Reagan Man

Like Rudy Giuliani, Mayor Bloomberg



I wouldn't waste a vote on either misfit.


17 posted on 08/31/2006 1:34:14 PM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: neverdem
This is a horribly written article that intermixes actions against stores within NYC with those outside it, and jumps from talking about one store from another without giving any details about what charges were brought against any of the stores.

The only actual charge mentioned was the disorderly conduct charge the one shop owner pled guilty for, which may very well be related to how he handled himself after the police did their little "sting operation".

However, it sounds like some of these shop owners had their inventories confiscated and their stores closed over misdemeanors charges.

I suspect that if that is the case they will have a very good chance of winning large settlements against NYC. Closing down the store and confiscating inventories could very well have cost those companies tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars, which is way out of line for the commission of a misdemeanor.

It also sounds like the officers might have simply confused the salesmen by having one of the two show a card allowing him to purchase a gun in NYC and putting it away, followed by having both of them ask questions and handle the guns, followed finally by having the person who didn't show the card attempt to purchase the gun, saying that he had already shown the card.

That would mean they ran a successful con on the shop owner and caused him to sell a gun illegally by mistake, not by intent.

That would explain the misdemeanor charge.

If the closed the store down and confiscated all their weapons after such a ploy, there should be some HUGE civil suits over this.

18 posted on 08/31/2006 2:07:18 PM PDT by untrained skeptic
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