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To: MplsSteve
As Hugh Hewitt said in a recent book "Can you count to 51?"

Aaah, Hugh - the biggest RINO lover of them all. That book of his was easily the most infuriating "conservative" read I've ever had. Sure, give all your donations to the RSNC so they can pi$$ it away on people like Chafee. No thanks. Glad I only spent $4 on it at the local discount store.

Hugh is right about the need to get to 51, he just totally misses how to do it. He thinks we need to continually bend over for the RINO contingent.

Hugh is wrong - dead wrong. Here is the key:

GWB carried 30 states in 2004 (31 in 2000). If there are 30 red states capable of producing 60 GOP senators, why are we spending precious resources defending the Chafees, Snowes, Collins', and Specters of the world? Why doesn't the RNC concentrate instead focus on making sure we never see another 'Rat senator in places like North Dakota and Montana?

By doing so you may take some shortterm losses, but in the longterm you not only increase the # of senators from the current 55, in addition you are no longer held hostage by the RINOs. We have the numbers on our side.

Part of me thinks the GOP has no interest in flushing the RINOs - without them, they would have to govern in as conservative a fashion as they campaign.

Personally, I don't think they have any interest in doing that. They need someone to blame to cover their lack of conservative governance. Holding all three branches of government, the RINOs are their last excuse.

44 posted on 08/31/2006 12:27:46 PM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe
If there are 30 red states capable of producing 60 GOP senators

Because there are not 30 red states. There are maybe 20 with the rest like Ohio, Florida Missouri, Iowa, New Mexico, Nevada are swing states where GWB won by less than 3 percent.

68 posted on 08/31/2006 12:50:02 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe

Hugh Hewitt has led the fight to DEFEAT CHAFFEE!!! He has said NOT to give money to the Senate Committee...


124 posted on 08/31/2006 2:14:22 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe

Actually, even Hewitt is onboard to throw Chafee overboard. At least he was last time I checked.

IMO, the fact Chafee announced he wouldn't vote for Bush is why. Hewitt is a GOP man to the core, and I think that greatly offended him. It certainly can't be because he isn't conservative enough, given some of the other positions Hewitt defends by Republicans. When even Hewitt jumps, the party firsters on this board should know they are outnumbered by far.


166 posted on 08/31/2006 4:21:46 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Kobach: Amnesty is going from an illegal to a legal position, without imposing the original penalty.)
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To: Ogie Oglethorpe

"Hugh is right about the need to get to 51, he just totally misses how to do it. He thinks we need to continually bend over for the RINO contingent.

Hugh is wrong - dead wrong"

He is not alone...I have been listening to Hannity on this issue for weeks. He is spending his time trying to scare out the base with tales of "Speaker Pelosi".

That is the problem..the republican establishment cannot understand that the problem this year is NOT bad republicans staying home, but the Republican establishment force feeding us crap candidates.

Imagine the enthusiasm if we had real republicans running in RI and Ohio. If our republican leadership supported real republicans in primary challenges instead of sucking up to the likes of Specter we would be ahead in the polls and at least a few senate seats in red states would not be in play.

Put another way, the 'hold your nose and vote' strategy is a loser. Our leadership, and I use that word very loosely, has to stop sucking up to our RINO moneyed interests, supporters of Amnesty and Cheap Labor, etc and start listening to the folk who brought them to the dance.

If they will not, they will lose and they only have themselves to blame.


288 posted on 09/01/2006 8:39:47 AM PDT by Jim Verdolini (We had it all, but the RINOs stalked the land and everything they touched was as dung and ashes!)
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