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To: Quilla
Does the prospect of your wives and children becoming martyrs of Jihad fill you with joy?

Sadly, his answer might well be yes. They seem to be drawn to the hereafter because Islam certainly doesn't offer much hope for them in the present.

18 posted on 08/31/2006 8:15:33 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

Does the prospect of your wives and children becoming martyrs of Jihad fill you with joy?
Sadly, his answer might well be yes. They seem to be drawn to the hereafter because Islam certainly doesn't offer much hope for them in the present.



I am not sure that this is the case. I fear that the Islamists truly believe that Allah will protect them (after all, they believe that Allah sent the Tsunami because they were insufficiently devout).

Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

You may recall that, when bandits were raiding the territory of the great Khan of China from the border with the Persian Empire (I think led by the Caliph), an emissary was sent to ask for help - the Chinese would attack on one side and the Persians on the other, and eliminate the bandits. The Caliph decided that he couldn't be bothered by an infidel, so he sent the emissary's head back in a basket -- trusting that the Persian army and Allah would protect him.

The Chinese rolled in with a 1 million man army, utterly destroyed the first city they came to and slaughtered every man, woman, child, and animal inside it, and then rolled up the Persian Empire in short order, with special attention paid to the body of the Caliph (and the bandit that started the fiasco). I believe this was the first real full-scale defeat of the Muslims. Allah did not protect them.

The Ottoman empire allied with the Germans in WWI -- and so the Ottoman empire was carved up by the Allies into the States that you see today. This so affected the Turks, that they ended the Caliph system of rule, and separated Islam and State, and renamed their State to be Turkey. Allah did not protect them.

The Islamists, some of whom are led by Iran, are now declaring jihad against the West, trust that Allah will protect them ....


37 posted on 08/31/2006 3:07:31 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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To: Starboard
They seem to be drawn to the hereafter because Islam certainly doesn't offer much hope for them in the present.

"No dumb bastard...
58 posted on 08/31/2006 10:21:49 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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