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1 posted on 08/30/2006 1:23:27 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

Orwell should have titled his novel "2008".

At this rate, IngSoc will be a reality.


2 posted on 08/30/2006 1:25:08 PM PDT by Killborn (Pres. Bush isn't Pres. Reagan. Then again, Pres. Regan isn't Pres. Washington. God bless them all.)
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I have a big problem with blaming porn no matter what the kind for what sickos do.


3 posted on 08/30/2006 1:25:47 PM PDT by jmc1969
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While I fully agree with the ban against violent porn I wonder what the UK is going to do about violent protest speech?





5 posted on 08/30/2006 1:28:43 PM PDT by avacado
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I expect the porn fanciers here will soon turn out to attack this Taliban-like decision.


6 posted on 08/30/2006 1:28:56 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: John Jorsett
Mrs Longhurst said legislation, which would apply to all websites, would mean her daughter's death had not been "entirely in vain".

I can't tell from that statement whether just viewing images via the WWW would be "possession," or whether it's referring to the servers hosting the images.

7 posted on 08/30/2006 1:29:17 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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How do they plan on judging what is violent and what is not? In the denotative sense, all sex is violent, but I'm sure they mean the connotative sense, which requires subjective judgement. Does this mean they're setting up a government office where they'll have government workers look at porn all day and decide what is violent and what is not?


9 posted on 08/30/2006 1:34:58 PM PDT by thoughtomator (There is no "Islamofascism" - there is only Islam)
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Does Emma Peel kicking the bad guy's butt qualify?
Maybe not today .....


10 posted on 08/30/2006 1:37:46 PM PDT by Waverunner
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Meanwhile there is still no travel restriction on Bill Clinton, serial rapist, from travelling to the UK.


11 posted on 08/30/2006 1:46:26 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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"Violent porn". Sounds great!


13 posted on 08/30/2006 1:48:06 PM PDT by Vision (God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, love and self-discipline 2Timothy1)
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If there is no effort made to criminalize S&M and B&D which celebrate the actual exercise of violent and sadistic fantasies, then the ban on porn is for naught.


15 posted on 08/30/2006 1:49:46 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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Trial jurors had been told of his obsession with strangulation and how he looked at internet sites connected with the fetish.

As usual, the crusaders mix up the causality. He obviously visited the sites because he was sick, the sites didn't make him sick.

17 posted on 08/30/2006 1:56:34 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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It is already a crime to make or publish such images but proposed legislation will outlaw possession of images such as "material featuring violence that is, or appears to be, life-threatening or is likely to result in serious and disabling injury".

There isn't anything relating to pornography in that description. It's probably only a poorly-written story but I'd love to know what's really going on here.

18 posted on 08/30/2006 1:58:06 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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I have no problem with this, but wouldn't she save more lives by winning the right of armed self-defense for English women?
20 posted on 08/30/2006 1:59:11 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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While it may be a crime to publish such violent pornography on the internet, I can't remember publisher being arrested and so charged. I do hear a lot about ordinary misfits being arrested and charged for viewing and/or downloading such crap. It seems to me that those who mastermind such enterprises should be the ones being arrested and charged. There is a lot about this that reminds me of the usual police stings in high prostitute areas. Rather than find and arrest the pimps and the prostitutes, arrest the 'johns' and tell the public that you're doing a great job of law enforement.


23 posted on 08/30/2006 2:53:38 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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Even if you don't want it for the list, I know you'd be interested. Maybe tonight I'll have the time to read it all.

BTW, other people: no one is blaming porn all by itself. But it's a natural law that people are influenced to varying degrees by what they put into their sensory organs. If this were not true, neither education, religious instruction, book reading, propaganda, nor advertising would have any effect.

Obviously not every individual reacts exactly in the same manner or to the same degree. But the truth is undeniable - that to some degree at least, you are what you watch/listen to/see.


27 posted on 08/30/2006 3:23:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (The entire universe is a God spot.)
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Right!!! Well then... henceforth, all things sharp will be banned, and all things pointy shall also be banned, and anything that is sharp AND pointy is right out!!!

Also, things that are blunt are banned, and things that are heavy are banned, and things that are blunt AND heavy are RIGHT OUT AS WELL!!!

Well, lets see... that about cover it then???

29 posted on 08/30/2006 3:38:22 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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I think it's a great decision, personally. I'm very sorry, but if the abuse of women turns you on, I see no reason to encourage that fetish. Go find something else to turn you on -- like kicking puppies or tearing the wings off of butterflies. And, yes, women really do get abused both physically and mentally to make this porn. Please watch this program (the full program is available online) and before claiming that all violence in the pornography is faked, note that the Frontline crew was so disturbed the violent porn shoot they attended that they left and couldn't take it.
33 posted on 08/30/2006 4:59:11 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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