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CA: $3 billion plan for struggling state schools is revealed (SB 1133, supported by Gub and CTA)
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 8/30/06 | Ed Mendel

Posted on 08/30/2006 9:59:07 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 08/30/2006 9:59:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Don't CA schools already get trainloads of cash?


2 posted on 08/30/2006 10:56:07 AM PDT by EricT. (SpecOps needs to paint the NYT building with a targeting laser.)
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To: NormsRevenge; FairOpinion; doodlelady; 68 grunt; Alia
The next few days are going to be a nightmare for blindly partisan Republicans as their hero, the Terminator of Republican values, strikes again and again.

I'm expecting FO and Schmidt to trot out the Greek bogeyman repeatedly , DL to faithfully reapply her patented intimidation through quotes from the founding father, grunt to offer more of the oxymoronic logic that got us here in the first place and the alia account to occasionally swoop in from the east to rake conservatives for their unwillingness to compromise their principles.

Should be an embarrassing few days as the genetically altered Democrats in the legislature squeeze out numerous insanities, on strict, party line votes, knowing their imported, liberal brethren, hiding behind a big shinny R, will bless enough of the last minute nonsense to make a meaningful advancement of liberalism.

3 posted on 08/30/2006 1:44:13 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag; NormsRevenge; FairOpinion; doodlelady; 68 grunt
and the alia account to occasionally swoop in from the east to rake conservatives for their unwillingness to compromise their principles.

Aha. "the" alia. Like.. um... "the Austrian" (Guv Arnold).

If you can't complain and do your nose in the air thing, you are having a bad day. You get off on gloom, Eeyore Amerigomag.

You have principles, and so do those who disagree with your OPINIONS.

Arnold is going to win.

4 posted on 08/30/2006 2:55:51 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia
... Eeyore ...

Certainly got the donkey part right!

5 posted on 08/30/2006 4:09:28 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
lol! But everyone loves Eeyore! He's a professional victim. I liked Piglet and WOL best, as a child. Only 3 girls in my school even knew what Winnie the Pooh books were about (back then). But, we all knew who the Beach Boys were! :)

Eeyore does such a gloomy bray, no?

6 posted on 08/30/2006 6:19:33 PM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia; 68 grunt
Good. The gang's all here.

Stick around. It should be fun for the next few days.

You'll be the center of attention.

7 posted on 08/31/2006 1:15:32 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: NormsRevenge

LOL, $3 billion here, $3 billion there....
Whatever.


8 posted on 08/31/2006 1:20:41 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Alia
Arnold is going to win.

And that's all that matters.
Obviously.

9 posted on 08/31/2006 1:24:04 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Amerigomag
I've read Steve Greenhut's columns for years. He's good.

The "gang's all here"; because you pinged us to be here.

Your choice in this election is Angelides or Arnold. Tom McClintock supports Arnold. Who do you think comprehends the politics of CA better -- Tom McClintock or Steve Greenhut?

Steve Greenhut is an excellent analyst. Were he running for Governor, would you vote for him? If so, why? If not, why?

I read Ann Coulter; but I'd not vote her in for President.

10 posted on 08/31/2006 3:31:01 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Lancey Howard

Winning office is important, Lancey. As the first step. Always.


11 posted on 08/31/2006 3:35:35 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia
Your choice in this election is Angelides or Arnold.

Good. Hold that thought. That's is precisely why I want the more rabid Republican (or Democrat) partisan to concentrate on the California Topic of FreeRepublic for the next few days.

Contemporary California politics will be an excellent example of the fundamental differences between the principles that founded FreeRepublic and those that drive partisan politics in the US today. Events will highlight why this forum was founded, in spite of the best efforts of either, major political party to advance their traditional political principles.

Over the next few days work to analyze the decisions of your Republican Party leader in California. Did each of the governor's individual decisions advance conservatism or advance liberalism? Were those decision you judged to be based on conservative principles assertive for conservatism or an effort to slow the advance of liberalism, or worse, a constitutional tool to prevent those matters from being returned to the California legislature where conservatives could effectively block their implementation?

As these events unfold, gauger their effects on the advancement of conservative principles. Did the highest elected official in California's GOP advance conservative principles? Did his actions reflect the majority viewpoint of his party's membership? Was he exercising his republican or democratic mandate while enjoying his constitutional authority?

When the analysis is complete, ask yourself whether there might not be a better way, through grass roots efforts, to avoid the losses that your political party just inflicted upon individual Republicans at the discretion their elected officials. Ask yourself if continuing your support for that candidate and that party will probably encourage them and simply enable more of the same. If the answer is YES, come join us on FreeRepublic and contribute.

FreeRepublic has survived and prospered because it was founded to advance conservative principles. It has remained popular with the grass roots because it wasn't a house conceived to form a holding action, an orderly retreat, a buffer to slow the tide of liberal advance or allegiance to a political party. FreeRepublic is a proactive step, an assertive undertaking, a vehicle to promote a change through grass roots efforts, outside the limitations of organized politics, which limitations are clearly demonstrated by the partisan mentality of the opening quote .

12 posted on 08/31/2006 8:14:57 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Alia; Amerigomag
... Your choice in this election is Angelides or Arnold. ...

I believe this ilkster has already admitted his choice is Philthy Angelides, unlike many of the herd who innocently pretend to support a conservative 'write-in' vote. I personally hope they are as miserable under Arnie as I would be under Philthy.

13 posted on 08/31/2006 8:37:51 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Alia
Winning office is important, as the first step. Always.

Nothing positive flows from the election of a liberal, regardless of his party registration.

Not the advancement of conservatism, the preservation of personal freedoms, the protection of individual property or rights or the general well being of the society. Nothing.

History is replete with the failures of liberalism and California's recent history, under a liberal Republican governor, at the suggestion of a liberal Republican governor, is a shinning example of those failures.

Gaining and exercising political power is important, but the philosophy which controls that power is far more important. Elect a liberal and liberalism will follow. Publicly promote the election of a liberal and liberalism will be advanced, even if that candidate fails.

If this discussion were occuring on a neutral or partisan forum partisan encouragements might be welcomed. But they are being offered on FreeRepublic, a decidedly conservative house. Shame on partisans for their abandoment of conservative principles in an effort to achieve partisan victory at any cost.

14 posted on 08/31/2006 8:43:57 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
... FreeRepublic has survived and prospered because it was founded to advance conservative principles. ...

Conservatism in California has lost and suffered because of the intolerant fringe. The ilk-like element has threatened and whined and cost us elections by staying home before, and you ilk would use this phenomenon to cost us this election, and further defeat and denigration of conservatism. Its the losing attitude of the ilk which has put conservatism in California in such a sorry condition. Of course, that is the goal of the ilk herd, complete demonrat domination and the end of the CAGOP and opposition to your national socialist desires.

15 posted on 08/31/2006 8:52:32 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: Amerigomag
... But they are being offered on FreeRepublic, a decidedly conservative house. ...

We could quote the founder on this subject, but the stupid ones of your ilk herd consider that 'browbeating'.

16 posted on 08/31/2006 8:56:22 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt
We could quote the founder on this subject, but the stupid ones of your ilk herd consider that 'browbeating'.

Q: Good grief... what is going on out there (California)???

A: We're overrun with Democrats and RINOs

17 posted on 08/31/2006 9:09:20 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag

Same thread ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1691665/posts?page=155#155


18 posted on 08/31/2006 9:41:43 AM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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To: 68 grunt

The ilk KNOWINGLY is doing Angelides' is job for him.

Part of Angelides' win strategy IS to get conservatives to stay home, by getting them mad at Arnold, by making them feel complacent, etc - which is exactly what the ilk is trying to do.

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A Recipe for Success (for Angelides) (Conservatives are Angelides' secret weapon)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1689690/posts

Here are some things he could do:

o Attack Arnold from the right :

§ Illegal immigration–Arnold has angered the conservative base with some of his comments on this issue. The Angelides campaign, or perhaps an anti-Arnold independent expenditure campaign, could attack Arnold in the mail or on the radio and use Arnold’s own words against him.

§ Taxes/government spending–The state government continues to run what is essentially a deficit and Arnold’s numerous proposals to increase government spending and borrowing turn off Republicans. This line of attack could also mitigate some of the tax attacks against Angelides.


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Schwarzenegger Hears Rumbles From the Right

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1685932/posts


" low conservative turnout will loom as a key peril for the governor and a prime source of hope for Democrats."


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"Angelides ... must win 80% of the Dems and a solid majority of the DTS (declined to state) registrants, TO ACCOMPANY THE 15% REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T VOTE FOR THEIR PARTY'S TICKET"

ANGELIDES IS COUNTING ON THEM.


http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2006/07/new_poll_result.html


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Angelides team bullish on California's blue state math (counting on CONSERVATIVES, to win)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1676818/posts

Angelides' camp believes that while the governor enjoys support among some Democrats now, by the time ballots are cast in November, the base will remain loyal.

They also believe that the opposite will occur with the Republicans because Schwarzenegger's recent move to the left on key issues such as immigration and the environment has alienated conservatives.



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To pull off a win, Angelides must seize his opportunities

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1683377/posts


"But it will not be easy, and Angelides must take full advantage of the opportunities: ... the governor's sometimes tense relationship with conservatives; "

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19 posted on 08/31/2006 2:02:37 PM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
... (Conservatives are Angelides' secret weapon) ...

This is where you, too, get sucked into the fifth columnist ruse. Conservatives are not Philthy's secret weapon. Ilk are!

20 posted on 08/31/2006 7:47:36 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 68-69, 0311)
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