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Soldier killed friend's dad while having 'cannabis-induced delusions' - cannabis-induced psychotic
The Mail ^ | Last updated at 18:30pm on 29th August 2006 | NEIL SEARS

Posted on 08/30/2006 9:27:52 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: visualops

to blame of being stoned= to blame on being stoned


21 posted on 08/30/2006 9:37:31 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

My BS meter has pegged out on this one. First of all, the guy clearly had mental problems before the incident. Secondly, pot doesn't cause hallucinations unless there is another drug present (e.g., PCP), especially considering he admitted to only a couple of puffs. Besides, if he was smoking pot, he'd be too paranoid and lazy to kill.


22 posted on 08/30/2006 9:37:45 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

I thought about the possibility of that. But, either somebody's an idiot for blaming cannabis instead of PCP, or somebody's just a plain old idiot. I'm guessing it's the latter.


23 posted on 08/30/2006 9:37:48 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Critics argue there is mounting evidence that cannabis is not only a 'gateway' drug to harder substances such as heroin

They've been saying that for 30 years or more.
24 posted on 08/30/2006 9:38:42 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Puppage

"There's a distinct possibility."


25 posted on 08/30/2006 9:39:39 AM PDT by Recovering Hermit (Apparently, most who protest for peace do so at the expense of hygiene.)
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To: visualops

"Marijuana doesn't lead to more drugs, it leads to f***ing carpentry" -- Denis Leary


26 posted on 08/30/2006 9:40:28 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Mr. K
But I also know that TOO MUCH really does make you a little mental

Eating a whole package of Oreo Double-Stuff cookies to yourself DOES NOT make you mental!

27 posted on 08/30/2006 9:41:22 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I gigged your peace frog.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sounds to me like the pot was laced with PCP or similar. Either that, or the guy was so far around the bend that eating a pair of Twinkies would have set him off, too.

I've known a number of potheads in my day, and the worst things they ever did was steal the last of the Doritos and lose their jobs. (Not necessarily related. :)


28 posted on 08/30/2006 9:41:37 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (Kelo must GO!! ..... http://sonoma-moderate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Abcdefg

According to the 1937 documentary "Reefer Madness", this is what always happens
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But only to the men. The white women have sex with black jazz musicians.


29 posted on 08/30/2006 9:42:03 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I find it hard to believe "cannabis" caused him to act out his "delusions".

I'm thinking it has more to do with the medical tests that showed he has hypomania than anything. And I would bet he has more going on mentally than just hypomania, to cause him to act out as he did.


Definition of Hypomania

Hypomania: A condition similar to mania but less severe. The symptoms are similar with elevated mood, increased activity, decreased need for sleep, grandiosity, racing thoughts, and the like. However, hypomanic episodes differ in that they do not cause significant distress or impair one's work, family, or social life in an obvious way while manic episodes do.

Hypomanic people tend to be unusually cheerful, have more than ample energy, and need little sleep. Hypomania is a pleasurable state. It may confer a heightened sense of creativity and power. However, hypomania can subtly impair a person's judgment. Too much confidence can conceal the consequences of decisions.

Hypomania can be difficult to diagnose because it may masquerade as mere happiness. It is important to diagnose hypomania because, as an expression of bipolar disorder, it can cycle into depression and carry an increased risk of suicide.


30 posted on 08/30/2006 9:45:01 AM PDT by Lucky9teen ( If you can't, you must. If you must, you can.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think the guy's real problem is that he woke up one morning and realized his parents had named him Laurie.


31 posted on 08/30/2006 9:46:05 AM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: Individual Rights in NJ
"100% BULLSHIT! HAHAHAHHAH

In other news: Caffine makes you eat babies! "

100% reefer madness BS is right!

Other medical research has shown nearly 90% of Americans who died in Idaho in 2003 had ingested potatoes in the last 2 years!..... / sarc

32 posted on 08/30/2006 9:47:00 AM PDT by patriot_wes (Infant baptism - the foundation of an unbelieving and unsaved church.....with lots of money))
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

Didja light 'im up? Did it do any good?


33 posted on 08/30/2006 9:47:04 AM PDT by Erasmus (It takes branes to make an alternate universe!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Disclaimer: Due to the forthcoming flames of myself being a pot-head, please be assured that I do not smoke any illegal substance; nor do I ingest, inject, inhale, or by any means consume illegal substances.

With the disclaimer said, I used to smoke marijuana daily for years back in my college-age days (just a few years ago). I can attest that never have I seen any violence induced by cannabis by any of the hundreds and hundreds of people I have smoked with. However, alcohol caused fights all of the time.

34 posted on 08/30/2006 9:47:38 AM PDT by rodeocowboy (Bush is our Carter.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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"After making more than two-thousand presentations where LEAP calls for the government to "end prohibition and legalize all drugs--legalize them so we can control and regulate them and keep them out of the hands of our children," we have discovered that the vast majority of participants in those audiences agree with us. Even more amazing is that we are now attending national and international law-enforcement conventions where we keep track of all those we speak with at our exhibit booth. After we talk with them, only 6% want to continue the war on drugs, 14% are undecided, and an astounding 80% agree with LEAP that we must end drug prohibition. The most interesting thing about this statistic is that only a small number of that 80% realized any others in law enforcement felt the same." About LEAP - Law Enforcement Against Prohibition


35 posted on 08/30/2006 9:49:19 AM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert
I've known a number of potheads in my day, and the worst things they ever did was steal the last of the Doritos and lose their jobs.

Quit spreading rumors about me! I was fir- um, I mean, downsized for gross financial malfeasance and rampant absenteeism, NOT for stealing those Doritos.

(Besides, no one was eating them anyway.)
36 posted on 08/30/2006 9:49:37 AM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

BS.


37 posted on 08/30/2006 9:50:50 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
That is so stupid --

Carolyn

38 posted on 08/30/2006 9:51:02 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: downtownconservative

They were fairly common male names in the South in the 19th century, but yes they have flipped genders since.


39 posted on 08/30/2006 9:51:12 AM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: Erasmus

Emptied our revolvers at him, about 50% hits, I don't even think he noticed. Took off running, ran right off a cliff about a block later and fell into the rocks (this was Ocean Beach in San Diego). Between the rocks and the waves, that did him in.

The scariest part was that the guy looked NORMAL--the pot took enough of the PCP twitchiness away that he just looked like he was drunk.


40 posted on 08/30/2006 9:53:32 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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