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1 posted on 08/30/2006 8:32:03 AM PDT by UnklGene
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Instead, he argues, a mid-air plane switch took place on three of the jets.

Ah, the old mid-air plane switcheroo...

47 posted on 08/30/2006 9:39:59 AM PDT by veronica (NEW LITERARY AND ARTS JOURNAL offers free advertising for writers, bloggers, artists. FRmail me...)
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A year before the tube bombings, radical Brit imam Omar Bakri announced that a group of London Islamists are "ready to launch a big operation" on British soil. "We don't make a distinction between civilians and non-civilians, innocents and non-innocents," he added, clarifying the ground rules. "Only between Muslims and unbelievers. And the life of an unbeliever has no value."

Well said Omar. That is my interpretation of your religion in a nutshell. Now if only the Muslim apostates and Muslim heretics continue to believe in a more peaceful approach to the Infidels, us Infidels have a good chance of doing you in. - tom

49 posted on 08/30/2006 9:44:08 AM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb Republicans - Capt. Tom)
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On a somewhat related note. Why does the government insist that when individual Muslims run civilians down with their SUV's or gun them down at Jewish community centers or EL AL ticket counters, that it isn't Islamic terrorism?

Is it a government conspiracy designed to hide the fact that Islam is a terrorist ideology?
50 posted on 08/30/2006 9:47:49 AM PDT by monday
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Hi, everyone. This is my first post on FR; I've lurked here for about two years, and feel the need to post on this subject. I work in a facility run by the Mennonites; most of my co-workers are conscientious objectors. Needless to say, we have frequent debates about the current geopolitical situation. What I have found is that people who embrace the concept of "world peace" do not have a workable solution to deal with a threat that is external, evil, and implacable. Their usual responses are to (1) deny the reality; (2) ignore the reality; (3) blame someone who won't retaliate (i.e., the Jews, the Bush Administration, the USA), or (4) invent some alternative theory about what the reality really is. One of my co-workers actually told me she would not read the Koran, "because there are things in it that might upset me." Their world view is so idealistic and so fragile, that it cannot stand up to reality. The truth creates a terrible cognitive dissonance for them. These people do not have bad intentions, but I fear that their "peaceful" world view will ultimately cost a lot more lives than it will save. After all, no one wanted to believe that Hitler had bad intentions back in 1938, either.


51 posted on 08/30/2006 9:48:42 AM PDT by HoosierGal
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Steyn ping!


54 posted on 08/30/2006 9:53:19 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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" a University of Western Ontario professor puts it down to a carefully planned substitution of transponder codes"

No matter how educated or intelligent a person is, we are all equally capable of being delusional.


55 posted on 08/30/2006 9:55:02 AM PDT by Check_Your_Premises (Ceterum censeo <Islamofascism> esse delendam -Huerro the Elder)
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For some morons, it was not convincing enough that Bin Laden acknowledged on film that he organized 9/11.


56 posted on 08/30/2006 10:01:05 AM PDT by ryan71
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It's irresistible to get incensed with idiots like the 9/11 conspiracy kooks especially when they phone radio shows and potentially spread their kookiness. The host(s) should say:

1) Conspiracy theorists are narcissists. They take comfort, even pride, in 'knowing' some deep dark secret.

2) Most of the conspiracy nuts are XXL ignoramuses. They know every minute detail of 9/11 or JFK in Dallas yet they probably can't name half the state capitals, tell you what the chemical formula for water is, or explain why sound travels faster in water than it does in air (just to pick a few at random). In other words, they are mentally ill and absorb thousands of 'facts' to cover their illness while being deficient in almost every other area of cognition.


58 posted on 08/30/2006 10:10:44 AM PDT by relictele
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The world has gone mad with conspiracy theories. Someone must have put something in the water!

Thank goodness I haven't been affected

62 posted on 08/30/2006 10:18:45 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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65 posted on 08/30/2006 10:44:18 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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The sad reality is that never before has an enemy hidden in such plain sight.

Bump!

67 posted on 08/30/2006 10:55:58 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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When you don't want the truth, any lie will do...


78 posted on 08/30/2006 12:10:50 PM PDT by WestTexasWend (NO OIL FOR APPEASERS)
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How can 36 per cent of people polled think U.S. officials knew of or participated in 9/11?

That's called the Democrat Base.
79 posted on 08/30/2006 12:14:47 PM PDT by BJClinton (What happens on Free Republic, stays on Google.)
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Getting Muslims to believe Muslims were behind 9/11 is akin to taking a poll after Jesus was crucified and asking the locals if He really was the Son of God. A minority would say yes. The majority would say no. Thankfully polls do not determine the truth in such cases.


83 posted on 08/30/2006 12:32:32 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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Ping


88 posted on 08/30/2006 1:22:41 PM PDT by knighthawk (We will always remember We will always be proud We will always be prepared so we may always be free)
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Come on, if you already live in Canada, it's not such a leap to live in an alternative universe.

Bingo! Thanks for the ping.

89 posted on 08/30/2006 1:25:50 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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The thing that still gets me about the plane swap - why? I mean, the conspiracy folks say that they downed the planes in the ocean, killing all aboard - why not just fly the damn things into their targets rather than relying on the drone concept?

Instead you got this complicated switch, flying a plane into the WTC, planting explosives, triggering the explosives, etc, etc, etc, whereas you could have just flown the damn planes into the thing.

Total nutjobs, so far beyond reason, and they're the Netnuts that are driving the Democrat agenda today. You can disagree on a awful lot of issues, but when your backbenchers are raving loons, there's just not much one can accomplish.

Hopefully the raving loons will continue to get attention. Any rational person would be repulsed by them, liberal or conservative.
90 posted on 08/30/2006 1:30:30 PM PDT by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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Anyone who thinks that the U.S. government is capable, audacious, and brilliant enough to pull off something like 9/11 and hide it flawlessly, has clearly never worked for ... the U.S. government.

99.9999 percent of government employees wouldn't go along with it, and the ones that wouldn't would be ratting out the conspirators with the very first shred of real evidence they found. Which they'd find, unless there isn't any. You simply can't hide a conspiracy the way that the theoriests describe it happening.

Unless, of course... you're the all powerful, all knowing President of the United States. Who, oddly enough, is considered a big dummy by most of the theorists.

It's one of two extremes with these guys. Either Bush is the dumbest rube to every bumble his way into the White House, or he's a diabolical mastermind who pulled off the greatest conspiracy in history. Whichever fits their need, depending on where in the narrative they are.

94 posted on 08/30/2006 1:50:42 PM PDT by Steel Wolf (- Islam will never survive being laughed at. -)
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Do think the fact that credible news outlets such as Fox News (i.e.O'Reilly for one program. . .) decide to actually debate the 'rumor'; by turn give 'sustenance' to this garbage and help perpetuate it.

A rediculous state of 'news' and/or affairs. . .to give this sickness a forum. . .

96 posted on 08/30/2006 2:43:42 PM PDT by cricket (Live Liberal free. . .or suffer their consequences. . .)
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I think I am actually speechless for once.


110 posted on 08/30/2006 11:24:31 PM PDT by ladyinred (Leftists, the enemy within.)
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