Posted on 08/30/2006 4:50:28 AM PDT by RKV
Pence found out that Immigration is the current third rail.
It's only untouchable inside the beltway - mainly because it would hurt more than a few businessmen who rely on "cheap" labor. The other 99.8% of us have no problem enforcing our existing laws, and want the borders closed. Our political parties have failed us on this.
I'm sick of these people. Rule of law, Larry.
Ping read for later.
I think I will make "Border Security" and "Deportation" my two new watch words as well. I like the sound of them.
Tancredo and Bay Buchanan, Pat's sister, founded a PAC together and she's the director.
And Pat and Bay are joined at the hip. The association is perfectly valid.
As for Pence, the Pence-Hutchison plan is the ONLY plan that will pass both Houses of Congress.
Kudlow is right, Buchanan is wrong. What else is new.
I'm glad you aren't fooled by Kudlow and Pence. Lou Dobbs is a much better conservative though I do admit he needlessly inserts anti Iraq and anti Bush garbage into his broadcast. To build audience share and because he believes it.
1) We don't need a plan to pass Congress.
2)We need our existing laws enforced and the border closed with a fence.
3) Buchanan is a populist - Tancredo is not. Clearly not, irrespective of what you say.
Take a look at his legislative record (e.g. The Sudan Peace Act signed in 2002) and you will not find an inward looking nativist a la Pat. What you are doing is passing on the mainstream media meme, which is not supported by the facts.
http://tancredo.house.gov/issues/
Jobs Americans Won't Do? Think again.
By Rich Lowry
A core element of the American creed has always been a belief in the dignity of labor—at least until now. Supporters of a guest-worker program for Mexican laborers say that "there are jobs that no Americans will do." This is an argument that is a step away from suggesting that there are jobs that Americans shouldn't do.
President George Bush, a strong supporter of the guest-worker program, has long said that "family values don't stop at the Rio Grande." We are supposed to believe, however, that the work ethic does stop there—it is only south of it that people can be found who are willing to work in construction, landscaping and agricultural jobs. So, without importing those people into our labor market, these jobs would go unfilled, disrupting the economy (and creating an epidemic of unkempt lawns in Southern California).
This is sheer nonsense. According to a new survey by the Pew Hispanic Center, illegals make up 24 percent of workers in agriculture, 17 percent in cleaning, 14 percent in construction, and 12 percent in food production. So 86 percent of construction workers, for instance, are either legal immigrants or Americans, despite the fact that this is one of the alleged categories of untouchable jobs. [Excerpt]
If these guys win, the Republican Party loses, and the nation loses......... This Tancredo-Buchanan backstabbing does this rising GOP star a great disservice. If allowed to go unanswered, it would represent another devastating blow to the Republican Party.
Amen, Larry, and worth repeating even though it will be a decidedly minority view here on FR. (Asbestos flame-suit now in place.)
Tell you where I am on this. My experience is that Kudlow is a capable economist who is right a good fraction of the time. He is off on this one, like a number of people, because he has a mistaken understanding of the costs and benefits of illegal immigration. Like many, he sees the benefits and discounts the costs. For those of us who live outside the beltway, we see what has happened to our schools, hospitals and prisons - they have been beggared by illegals. A few people make money off the illegals, and they are powerful and politically connected (farmers, businessmen and (!) teachers). The rest of us have to pay what their employers do not pay for (medical costs, dumbed down education for our kids, the cost of uninusured drivers, etc.).
I'm not convinced. Tancredo's a one-issue candidate, whether he likes it or not (I think he likes it). Both he and Buchanan want to roll back the level of legal immigration, a sure sign of nativism.
No flames, but I do disgree. This is more about keeping Tancredo out, than about putting Pence in. Tancredo doesn't toe the line, and therefore is dangerous.
The media view of Tancredo is that he is a "one issue candidate." That is what they (M$M) want you to believe. Do yourself a favor. Don't.
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