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It's more likely a polite society can allow it's people to be armed.

I have two comment on this, particularly since my original comments seem to have sparked this conversation to some extent.

1st, it is true that it is much more likely that a polite society is more capable of being responsibly armed. That is because a fundmental moral foundation is indidspensable to liberty and freedom. Our fouders knew this and our society and its government was based upon the notion that we were all created equal, that we were endowed with certain unalienable rights, and that the people, by and large in the large majority, were good.

2nd, I take issue with the statement about society allowing people to be armed. I believe it is a fundamental unalienable right. It is not for sociey to decide IMHO. I believe that the people being armed is another indispensable ingredient to true liberty so long as their is evil in the world. I also believe it is clear that the founders felt that "armed" meant the individual citizens having ready access to and ownership of the same individual arms that their enemy's soldiers had access to...but that is my opinion.

Anyhow, the two go hand in hand, fundamental moral foundation and self defense through owning and bearing weapons...in this day and age, firearms.

Again, just my thoughts on the matter.

I also believe it is clear that the founders felt that "armed" meant the individual citizens having ready access to and ownership of the same individual arms that their enemy's soldiers had access to...but that is my opinion.

I agree 100% except for the fundamental unalienable right part, which in my opinion would allow everyone from known criminals, to insane people and 15 year old children to own weapons. I personally think, and this is only my opinion, that a shopping mall full of 15 year old kids with Czech 75's stuffed in their waistband down around their knees is not likely to remain a very polite place.

I'm not trying to be semantic here either. A 'fundamental unalienable right' is very specific and implies everyone. I'll repeat that I am in favor of carry laws. I am highly in favor of the 2nd amendment and the right to own arms. I am not in favor the restrictions put forth by the anti-gun lobby, but at the same time I'm not in favor of the drunk down the street owning a stinger missile. On the other hand if a million man Muslim army was marching through my state I'd probably change my tune about arming crazy people and my tipsy neighbor.