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To: Jeff Head
An armed society is a polite society.

Now I'm an advocate of the second amendment, but just exactly how does that square with Iraq where all citizens are armed?


5 posted on 08/29/2006 8:45:59 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: HawaiianGecko

An Armed SANE society is a polite society.


6 posted on 08/29/2006 8:47:39 AM PDT by spikeytx86 (Pray for Democrats for they have been brainwashed by there fruity little club.)
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To: HawaiianGecko
Now I'm an advocate of the second amendment, but just exactly how does that square with Iraq where all citizens are armed?

Perhaps Franklin meant the quote in the context of a civilized Western nation. Emphasis on the 'civilized' part.
7 posted on 08/29/2006 8:49:24 AM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: HawaiianGecko

All citizens are not armed in Iraq.


9 posted on 08/29/2006 8:51:47 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: HawaiianGecko

[The Constitution preserves] the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation...(where) the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms.
---James Madison,The Federalist Papers, No. 46.


10 posted on 08/29/2006 8:52:06 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: HawaiianGecko

Iraq is a work in progress. It is terrorism and the struggle for control at work there.


17 posted on 08/29/2006 9:27:03 AM PDT by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: HawaiianGecko

Goood point. Here you probably getting into something I can't spell or pronounce. Political systems, religion and sheer tradition can coalesce into ? The framers often and prodigiously noted that their form of republican-democracy was illy suited towards a lawless group of citezenry, who had no morals (of any sort) outside their own self-interest.

It's akin to when politicians talk about a "stable Iraq"; let's be clear - Iraq *was* stable under Saddam, but that's another matter whether the rest of the world winks and nods about how it is, that this area was "stable". Here's where the conspiracy nutjobs go into gear. They would claim, I'm certain, that it is in the decadent, imperialist West that the goal is instability in the region, etc., etc., & the long arm of Castro is involved.

People really CAN be trusted with the reins of government, self-rule and determination. But it's got to be the real deal, not a fait accompli by hucksters.


20 posted on 08/29/2006 9:43:37 AM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: HawaiianGecko
"Now I'm an advocate of the second amendment, but just exactly how does that square with Iraq where all citizens are armed?"

It's the Islam.

33 posted on 08/29/2006 11:26:21 AM PDT by 10mm
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To: HawaiianGecko
Now I'm an advocate of the second amendment, but just exactly how does that square with Iraq where all citizens are armed?

A) You are on a bus and a guy starts shooting passengers. You have no gun. What do you do?

B)You are on a bus and a guy starts shooting passengers. You have a gun. What do you do?

That should pretty much explain how guns in the hands of the right people saves lives - provided you answered the questions correctly (see answers below). .

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Answers:
A: After witnessing and hopefully surviving such an event, you immediately begin to lobby for right to carry legislation.

B. You shoot, take the guy out and save lives.

38 posted on 08/29/2006 1:37:46 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: HawaiianGecko
Iraq is a nation in the making in the midst of a war with a terrorist insurency following a war to oust a dictator who ruled for thirty years.

Other than that it's just like the U.S.. /s

42 posted on 08/29/2006 2:16:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Surrender to Islam. Vote Democrat.)
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