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To: from occupied ga
If ethanol were a net energy producer (and it's not)...

Of COURSE it's not. It's a fuel. It's a means of storing energy in a form that's convenient to handle and easy to use in engines built with current technology.

Solar, wind, hydro, and nuke are all energy sources. Ethanol, on the other hand, is a fuel, a stepping stone in the pathway between an energy source and cars. It doesn't matter if it's inefficient...it's in a form a car can use. Efficiency will improve as production comes online.

"But," you say, "If it costs more energy in fossil fuel than you can get out of ethanol, why not just use the fossil fuel and be that much ahead?" The answer is that we won't always be supporting the ethanol (or for that matter methanol) process with fossil fuels.

If this is to ever work, we must start somewhere. The first diesel engine was built before there was such a thing as diesel fuel. The short-term impracticality of the device was more than offset by long-term utility.

211 posted on 08/29/2006 9:19:17 AM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon

Correct. Try burning coal in your car.


212 posted on 08/29/2006 9:22:30 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Oberon
The first diesel engine was built before there was such a thing as diesel fuel.

What?!? An engine was built before there was any fuel to run or test it? Care to support that claim?

213 posted on 08/29/2006 9:25:23 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Oberon
Ethanol, on the other hand, is a fuel, a stepping stone in the pathway between an energy source and cars

Interesting take on it. Why not hydrogen as the transfer medium and 200 new nucs as the power source then - that makes a lot more sense to me. I believe they're coming out with a hydrogen powered car that stores compressed H2 at 10,000 psi. Dunno how you refill the tank though.

241 posted on 08/29/2006 11:05:00 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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