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To: auntyfemenist

Why is jail a no-man's land?
Jail is watched by cops, guarded by cops.
They have cameras.


If we cannot control our prisons to the point that people are being routinely raped, murdered and crippled in there, then we had better stop sending people we're mad at for non-violent crimes (like drug sales) to prisons, and put more cops there until we've controlled the place.

As it is, if all of these reports are really true, we are effectively allowing the state to impose a sentence of exposure to rape, murder and crippling...illegal acts in the society...which the state won't take the steps to stop, in order to threaten the whole of society with the "consequences" of jail.

That's no good. If we cannot control the prisons, we need to stop sending non-violent offenders to prison and do something else with them.


17 posted on 08/28/2006 12:18:45 PM PDT by Vicomte13 (The Crown is amused.)
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To: Vicomte13

Good points. I think the little puke should have been sentenced on the spot to pick up litter or something like that, not tossed in with the worst of the worst thugs, unguarded. If they're not going to guard the little pukes in the cells with brutal thugs, they need to come up with some other kind of solution.


19 posted on 08/28/2006 12:24:02 PM PDT by Kitten Festival
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To: Vicomte13
Jail is a no-man's land because there are a lot of people, including here on FR, that enjoy the concept of a state run rape/assault camp because it's worse for (some of) the criminals.
32 posted on 08/28/2006 1:41:12 PM PDT by Durus ("Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." JFK)
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To: Vicomte13
"If we cannot control our prisons to the point that people are being routinely raped, murdered and crippled in there, then we had better stop sending people we're mad at for nonviolent crimes (like drug sales) to prisons, and put more cops there until we've controlled the place."

Duh. I see you have no experience with the penal system. Controlling them is not the point. There are even special prisons for prisoners who kill other prisoners. I guess you can't grasp the full meaning of imprisonment till you have seen it up close. The justice system is not a babysitter to get your kid under control.

Taking mom's car on a joy ride = death penalty. Sound reasonable to you?

37 posted on 08/28/2006 3:20:10 PM PDT by auntyfemenist (Card carrying conservative, William F. Buckley fan.)
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