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Obesity? This is a job for Supernanny(neo soviet barf alert)
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| 8 27 06
| Minette Marrin
Posted on 08/28/2006 11:20:06 AM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: najida
I remember going to the grocery store with Mom for more HiC, and I got the idea to talk her into Tang on the grounds that the astronauts drink it so it must be good.
It was an unacceptable substitute, as we discovered when we got home. Ugh.
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:44:18 AM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(No one will be sitting in sackcloth and ashes wailing, "Oh, if only we had listened to Art Bell!")
To: Xenalyte
Or Big Red, in San Antonio.
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:45:11 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: maryz
"Pasta, potatoes and bread are cheap. And you'll get fat on them."
Perhaps you meant, "You CAN get fat on them." I eat what I want and how much I want. I drink enough soda to warrant my own factory. :) I'm pushing 40, stand 6'0" and weight 165.
Oh yeah, I exercise moderately. VERY moderately. ;)
I don't use the elevator, I use the stairs. I take 2 steps at a time. I don't troll the supermarket parking lot for the absolute closest spot, I just park and walk. I always seem to be involved in some project or other that is phyically demanding, by my choice. These are things I have always done and I have always been in good shape.
Lifestyle.
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:46:02 AM PDT
by
L98Fiero
(Evil is an exact science)
To: elmer fudd
I get your point, but there are some people who have valid cause for their size. Pituitary tumor, for example. Without the job and the insurance, correction becomes financially impossible. I know a lady like this who is a nurse. In fact, nurses are sometimes more heavy than non-health professionals. That's kinda scary. Has to be partly due to the high stress. IMHO.
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:47:25 AM PDT
by
Froufrou
To: Xenalyte
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:47:59 AM PDT
by
najida
(The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
To: freepatriot32
Nobody who craves cheap comfort food will willingly give it up. But if over-processed, over-refined food and junk food were to become expensive while healthy fresh food became cheap the opposite of the case today people would be forced to eat well. This could be done through taxes or subsidies. Alternatively, you could ration unhealthy food.
Communism underlies it all. Of course, they proceed on the false premise that hiring a cook (in the form of buying prepared/processed food) is cheaper than cooking for yourself. That is silly, like saying that houses are cheap, and lumber is expensive.
Don't these people have a pot? A chicken?
I don't care is "food" is expensive. It's the INGREDIENTS that are cheap.
I actually hear this argument from highly educated liberals, and they are never able to offer a response when I ask to see the food budget and (over-refined, junk food) choices made by poor fat people, and let me offer a far healthier alternative at half the cost.
Somebody please tell me, what junk food is cheap? Sure, a greasy fast food burger and fries costs only a couple bucks, while fine dining from fresh ingredients can cost a fortune. However, the comparison is not between McDonalds and fine dining, it's between McDonalds and grilling your own. It's between the Colonel and sticking a chicken in the oven.
If these governmentalists want to persuade me that more government is needed, it would be in having qualifications to receive food aid. You have to prove you are qualified (or submit to training) to responsibly shop and cook.
Let the commies stop giving money to the poor. Let them offer a food bank, government selected menus, with instructions on how to cook each day. (Here's your chicken, here's your beans, here your salad, your corn, your tsp of garlic powder, etc. - here's a video showing how to cook them.) It would be CHEAP to do, feed people well, and TEACH them how to live like independent humans.
How about having the welfare mommies show up for a month of kitchen duty, where they cook lunch for themselves and the kids in a group with supervision, taking turns watching the kids. They would learn how to cook the essentials, and then could be left on their own to cook with (here it comes:) ...INGREDIENTS!
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:48:07 AM PDT
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
To: Xenalyte
No one's too poor to eat healthy. Fresh produce and meat costs far less than the prepackaged frozen stuff. You've got that right.
Other than weekly staples, like milk, eggs, bread, fruits and veggies, I do a freezer/pantry stock up about every 10-12 weeks....and then I will spend 2 days cooking and repackaging.....
It can never be said in this house "there's nothing to eat." If you walk away hungry after eating at my table, you have no one to blame but yourself :)
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:48:42 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
To: Gabz
Nanny StateFrom one of California's nanny-state advocates:
State Lawmakers Tackle Consumer Safety Issues
"Most parents want to do the right thing. It's up to us to help them to understand what the right thing is."-- CA Assemblywoman Noreen Evans, D-Santa Rosa
To: najida
The perfect Health Drink:
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:49:19 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Xenalyte
"No one's too poor to eat healthy. Fresh produce and meat costs far less than the prepackaged frozen stuff."
Absolutely. The problem is not one of economics, it's laziness. One can buy healthy food virtually anywhere in the country. The "problem" is, it has to be prepared and cooked. Many people don't want to be bothered.
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:50:06 AM PDT
by
Buck W.
(If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
To: PCBMan
True, but the difference is that the McD's meal is already made. Some people just don't have the time.
Welfare Moms gots lotsa time.
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:50:19 AM PDT
by
Atlas Sneezed
(Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
To: freepatriot32
Fat is a class issue. Rich, educated people are not fat; you see almost no children in private schools who are overweight. Oh, please. The statement is demonstrably false. Here is a particularly lame attempt to fit the issue of obesity into sophomoric Marxian class analysis. That is what passes for serious thought on the left these days.
Colonic polyps are a serious health issue too, but that doesn't mean the government needs to stick a scope up your butt for your own good. They already have the income tax.
To: freepatriot32
The schools used to make kids take gym class to stay fit.
To: freepatriot32
I am opposed to Government trying to regulate this problem. I do think that some Government policies add to obesity. Selling cokes, candy bars and junk food in our schools is ridiculous. I think people are discouraged from walking and bike riding. Road construction frequently does not include sidewalks or bike lanes. I think it is good to require labels on packaged food and fast food to provide nutritional information. Physical Education should be encouraged or required in our schools.
I cannot see Government starting to police food choice, it has a hard enough time at the FDA approving new drugs.
To: freepatriot32
"this issue has gotton so far out of hand its ridiculous. If this author thinks the government should get involved in peoples weight and food choices he can perhaps point to even one thing the governments of england or america have got involved in where the problem was better afterwords and not 1000 times worse."So true, as I have been saying for the past 25 years.
To: PCBMan
True, but the difference is that the McD's meal is already made. Some people just don't have the time. Actually, some people just choose NOT to make the time. A home cooked healthy meal can be accomplished often in less than 30 minutes. Many a night it takes longer for a pot of water to boil for pasta, noodles, or rice than it takes me to cook the entire meal.
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:55:25 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
To: elmer fudd
These are the same people who "celebrate" the gay lifestyle, which, according to health statistics is a very unhealthy way to live.
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:55:29 AM PDT
by
Help!
To: ArrogantBustard
No ... the essential foodgroups are coffee, beer, peanuts, and beef jerky. You forgot pizza.........
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:56:22 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
To: Gabz
The software you're using to browse this forum was probably fueled by cold pizza and warm Jolt Cola ... or some equivalent.
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posted on
08/28/2006 11:58:55 AM PDT
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Froufrou
I get your point, but there are some people who have valid cause for their size. Pituitary tumor, for example. Without the job and the insurance, correction becomes financially impossible. I know a lady like this who is a nurse. In fact, nurses are sometimes more heavy than non-health professionals. That's kinda scary. Has to be partly due to the high stress. IMHO.It's true that there are plenty of people out there that are unhealthy through no fault of their own, but that doesn't mean employers have any responsibility to subsidize them. In fact they have a responsibility to both their customers and their shareholders to do otherwise. The one exception would be if the conditions arose during employment and the employer was committed to provide for the employee per the terms of employment.
It's may sound heartless, but companies aren't in business to be charity cases and when we force them to be, they become less competitive and we all suffer because of it.
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