Posted on 08/28/2006 6:31:13 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
Get the evolutionists off of educational welfare...
A paragraph that bears repeating!
Oh, please yourself - "removing someone from the gene pool" means one of two things. One, sterilization. Two, execution. Anyone who disagrees with you about equating Coral Ridge to the Taliban needs to be removed from the gene pool, you said, so were you advocating execution, or sterilization for those who disagree with you.
Spin all you like, but there your words are, in black and white. And I bet you're actually surprised when folks react badly, aren't you?
""You can't equate a thinker and a madman, or science and crime."
It is wrong and very dangerous to dismiss people like Hitler (or Ahmedijad, or Kim Jong Il, etc.) as "madmen." These people are in fact "thinkers," even intellectuals of a sort. The problem is not that they are "crazy," but that they are evil. Their ideas didn't come out of psychotic delusions, but from the intellectual climate of their time. Racism, evolution, and eugenics were popular among intellectuals in the period when Hitler was cooking up his ideology. Not that Darwin was to blame for Hitler, but his ideas were influential.
Which are you proposing, the "final solution" or just forced sterilization?
Your panties are on waaaaaaaaaayyyyyy too tight this morning.
This is going to be an interesting thread.
One thing, I'm amused that so many people jump on the author for his hyperbolic comparison of Christians to the Talibs, but no one seems to recognize the absurdity of blaming the Holocaust on Charles Darwin. In this sense, I would have to say that the author's use of reductio was highly effective.
Secondly, I'm also amused that so few people criticize the producers of the video tape for their questionable practices. Dr. Francis Collins is the director of the Human Genome Project at the National Institute of Health. He is a highly respected molecular biologist and a Christian. He was interviewed by the producers of this video but they lied to him about their purpose. Dr. Collins has stated he believed he was being interviewed about a book he recently published, while in actuality he was being filmed for this production on creationism/intelligent design. The producers of this video tape then went on to advertise that Dr. Collins was going to appearing in it, thus lending his respectability to it.
Therefore, I believe those people who condemn the author of this article for his use of hyperbole yet at the same time praise the producer of the video despite his conduct are nothing but big, fat hypocrites.
Furthermore, I also believe that people who claim the Holocaust is a consequence of Charles Darwin are implicitly denying the influence of centuries of Christian anti-semitism. It is for this reason I believe people who make such claims are engaging in a mild form of Holocaust denial.
You're so full of it you're squeaking, pal. When you say something like that, it's "hyperbole". When someone else says that Coral Ridge is like the Taliban, it's obviously a comparison that must be taken entirely literally, with no room for literary devices like hyperbole. Nice double-standard.
Depends on the funding.
Thanks! I try.
Last I checked, "removing people from the gene pool" wasn't a conservative value or program. Are you sure you're in the right place? Stormfront is into that kind of thing - maybe you'd be happier there.
Thus it's America's Taliban, America's Shiite theocracy.
Whoa. How'd he make the jump from premise A to conclusion B?
There's nothing funnier than when a dumbass writes an article about other dumbasses.
I'm superman by gettingaway with murder. And when get caught, I defend myself by blaming Nietzsche. After all, he influenced me. Even if I really was influenced by Nietzsche, does that let me off the hook?
According to this artricle, it does. It opens by saying that positing an influence from Darwin to Hitler frees Hitler of fault.
Then again, emotional impact always did make better eliminationist propaganda than reason, as you-know-who could attest.
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where this comes full circle is that the social darwinism/eugenics thinking of the right of the early 20th Century has migrated to the left. Designer babies for heteros and invitro for homos is the order of the day and for the future -- cloning.
So, anyone that disagrees with your perception of intellectual perfection is lying or ignorant?
I'm not even sure where to start with such an arrogant generalization.
No, I don't want to forcibly remove people from the gene pool, silly. I just think it would be nice if blithering imbeciles who believe such idiocy would voluntarily stop breeding.
You know. Take one for the team.
Two words, Steve: Social Darwinism.
The idea was inspired by the theory of evolution, as you well know. As were a whole host of other eugenic (and economic) theories.
I suppose you can ignore the fact that ideas -- even the theory of evolution -- have moral consequences. But of course, anything that has a practical application carries with it a set of moral implications. I rather doubt that you'd claim that evolutionary theory has no practical applications, which leaves you with the problem of dealing with its moral implications.
I'd wager that you are not in favor of Social Darwinism. But in order to be against it (or for it, for that matter), you must make the argument why evolutionary theory cannot (or can) be applied to humankind. The moral implications just sit there, unable to be ignored.
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Be a man, for crying out loud - either stand by what you actually said, or admit you said something you didn't really mean, and get on with your life. But either way, quit trying to spin your way out of it. It just looks sillier by the minute.
It's true. He was.
This great hero of the Reformation changed the world as the consequence of simply believing the Gospel, where it concerned simple faith.
Unfortunately, for himself and for the world, he stopped short of believing the part about Israel.
Those who do so do so at great peril.
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