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Denver DEA Rep: Don't Legalize It
The Daily Camera ^ | August 27, 2006

Posted on 08/28/2006 3:45:15 AM PDT by Wolfie

Denver DEA Rep: Don't Legalize It

Colorado -- The Drug Enforcement Agency is stepping into the political fray to oppose a statewide ballot issue that would legalize possession of small amounts of marijuana.

In an e-mail to political campaign professionals, an agent named Michael Moore asks for help finding a campaign manager to defeat the measure, which voters will consider in November. If passed, it would allow people 21 and older to have up to 1 ounce of marijuana.

In the e-mail, which was sent from a U.S. Department of Justice account, Moore also writes that the group has $10,000 to launch the campaign. He asks those interested in helping to call him at his DEA office.

That has members of Safer Colorado, the group supporting the marijuana legalization measure, crying foul. The government has no business spending the public's money on politics, they said.

Steve Fox, the group's executive director, said members of the executive branch, including the DEA, should leave law-making to legislators.

"Taxpayer money should not be going toward the executive branch advocating one side or another," Fox said. "It's a wholly inappropriate use of taxpayer money."

Jeff Sweetin, the special agent in charge of the Denver office of the DEA, said voters have every right to change the laws. And the law allows his agency to get involved in that process to tell voters why they shouldn't decriminalize pot.

"My mantra has been, 'If Americans use the democratic process to make change, we're in favor of that,'" he said. "We're in favor of the democratic process. But as a caveat, we're in favor of it working based on all the facts."

Sweetin said the $10,000 the committee has to spend came from private donations, including some from agents' own accounts. He said the DEA isn't trying to "protect Coloradans from themselves" but that the agency is the expert when it comes to drugs.

"The American taxpayer does have a right to have the people they've paid to become experts in this business tell them what this is going to do," he said. "They should benefit from this expertise."

That argument threatens states' rights to make their own laws, says Safer's Fox.

"By this logic, federal funds could be used by the executive branch without limitation to campaign for or against state ballot initiatives," he said. "Our federalist system is based on the notion that states can establish their own laws without federal interference. The DEA ... is thumbing its nose at the citizens of Colorado and the U.S. Constitution."

State and federal law take different approaches to whether government employees should be allowed to mix work and politics.

Colorado law prohibits state employees from advocating for or against any political issue while on the job, and also bars those employees from using government resources — including phone and e-mail accounts — for any kind of political advocacy.

But federal law — which governs what DEA agents can do — is different.

The Hatch Act, passed in 1939 and amended in 1993, governs most political speech. Passed in the wake of patronage scandals in which the party in power would use government money and staff to campaign against the opposition, the law is mostly aimed at partisan political activity, said Ken Bickers, a University of Colorado political science professor.

While the act's prohibitions against on-the-job partisan politicking are strict, for the most part it allows federal employees to take part in non-partisan politics. And it's mostly silent on non-partisan ballot measures.

"I'm not sure that this doesn't slide through the cracks in the Hatch Act," Bickers said. "The Hatch Act isn't about political activity — it's about partisan political activity. Since this is a ballot initiative, and there's no party affiliation attached to it, that part of the Hatch Act probably wouldn't be violated."

An official from the U.S. Office of Special Counsel, the federal agency charged with investigating violations of the act, said in a statement last week that the DEA hasn't run afoul of Hatch.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: bongbrigade; marijuana; mrleroybait; warondrugs; wod; woddiecrushonleroy; wodlist
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To: dirtboy

So in all that time the legal status of pot was the only thing to change?


62 posted on 08/29/2006 7:25:10 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: muawiyah
You guys in the dope business

Would you please elaborate on exactly who "You guys" are and what "dope business" they're engaged in?

63 posted on 08/29/2006 7:25:41 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: muawiyah
You erroneously claim that 'substance abusers' actions are harming/threaten you, when in fact the threat/harm is the result of the 'war' that your prohibition caused.

Your claim: "---- I get to take action directly to make sure you cannot harm me or mine as a consequence. [of smoking dope] ---"; is unsupported by historical reality.

How did the [legal] dope smokers of the 19th century threaten or harm anyone?

Let's take this debate over to the setting provided by the Duke Rape Case where the AV is a self-admitted abuser of alcohol and muscle relaxants. She used both at the same time, had the expected hallucination, and now three guys are on hold awaiting trial for a rape they didn't commit.

Good grief.. --- Unable to refute historical reality, you want to claim that a psycho woman's drug abuse lead to rape charges. Ever occur that there are psychos everywhere making trouble regardless of drug abuse?

There's no way the rest of us can be protected from you people unless we have a "hold harmless" clause in the deal that allows us to stomp back.

Hmmmmm, - 'you people need stomping' -- speaking of disturbed people...

64 posted on 08/29/2006 7:28:36 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: Moonman62
So in all that time the legal status of pot was the only thing to change?

I'm simply pointing out your absurdity.

65 posted on 08/29/2006 7:31:23 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: muawiyah
You guys in the dope business

The only thing I consume is beer. I don't drive if I am having beer at home. Using your "logic", you could kill me for drinking because I "might" harm you. You're insane.

66 posted on 08/29/2006 7:32:23 AM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: muawiyah
I am not a fascist because I want to use the powers of the state

" The purpose of government is to rein in the rights of the people"
--Bill Clinton, during an interview on MTV in 1993

67 posted on 08/29/2006 7:36:04 AM PDT by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: dirtboy
You did? Where did you do that?

There is no modern successful society that tolerates widespread recreational drug use. I suppose you could go to Amsterdam, but you've only got a few years until the Muslims take over.

68 posted on 08/29/2006 7:49:08 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
There is no modern successful society that tolerates widespread recreational drug use.

Riiiight. And all those people who frequent bars or spend their evening in front of the TV with a six pack aren't engaged in recreational drug use.

69 posted on 08/29/2006 7:54:51 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic

Yes, but you know what I mean. It is nowhere near the widespread drug use that the Libertarians and drug users would like.


70 posted on 08/29/2006 8:00:52 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62

I know what you mean, but that doesn't mean it's making any sense. Whether it's a good idea or not is for the people of Colorado to decide. The DEA has stuck it's nose in where it doesn't belong.


71 posted on 08/29/2006 8:06:45 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: muawiyah
The real issue here is my right to self-protection against your interest in recreation that may be harmful to my interests and property.

Actually you are the one inflicting the pain based on a false claim of harm to your interests and property and a false claim that you need self-protection from something that does not affect you. Someone partaking of a substance in their home does not harm you in any way, yet you make a claim that it does.

Besides, the WODs has such a small impact on the drug trade it is not protecting your so called interests anyway. Even the DEA admits is stops less than 1% of the drugs flowing into this country and yet the cost to society is huge.

The Federal Government is killing 3,500 Mexicans and even more Columbians per year in this war (not to mention the 3,000,000 million Columbian refugees). That innocent blood being spilled is on the supporters of the WODs hands.
72 posted on 08/29/2006 8:08:52 AM PDT by microgood
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To: muawiyah
I am not a fascist because I want to use the powers of the state

LOL!! Where did you learn the language? The DUmmie Dictionary?

73 posted on 08/29/2006 8:16:05 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: muawiyah
Are you denying God?

Newsflash: You ain't God, your delusions to the contrary notwithstanding.

74 posted on 08/29/2006 8:18:19 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: muawiyah

WAAAAA!!! The nasty state won't let me, muawiyah (aka God) steal and kill!!!!


75 posted on 08/29/2006 8:19:13 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: Moonman62
ALL successful societies condone drug use. Just because "they are the drugs you like - alchohol, caffein, ibuprofin" - they are still drugs.

Another logic-less post. Screen name is appropriate.

76 posted on 08/29/2006 8:20:12 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: steve-b
Love your tag line...so tru, so true.
77 posted on 08/29/2006 8:22:17 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: tacticalogic

I don't expect what I say to make any sense to Libertarians or drug addicts except in the rarest cases. If what the DEA is doing is legal then Liberatarians shouldn't have a problem with it. If you think it's illegal, file a lawsuit.


78 posted on 08/29/2006 8:22:48 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: KeepUSfree
Then what's the problem? Why do Libertarians and drug addicts keep spamming the internet?
79 posted on 08/29/2006 8:24:53 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Moonman62
I don't expect what I say to make any sense

Well, then, you won't be disappointed when it doesn't.

80 posted on 08/29/2006 8:25:58 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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