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CA: Legislature Sends Prison Condom Bill To Schwarzenegger
Associated Press ^ | August 26, 2006

Posted on 08/27/2006 10:26:44 AM PDT by calcowgirl

Public health agencies and nonprofits would begin distributing condoms to California prison inmates under a bill sent this week to Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, a measure modeled after similar programs in other states and cities.

Democrats who support the effort said making condoms available will help control the spread of HIV and other sexually transmitted diseases.

"Everyone knows that sex happens in prison, and short of solitary confinement for all ... inmates, the state is unable to prevent it," Assemblyman Paul Koretz, D-West Hollywood, said in a statement.

Various studies put the incidence of homosexual activity inside prisons at between 30 percent and 60 percent of male inmates, while the rate of HIV infection is at least five times that of the outside population, Koretz said.

Critics say the spread of sexual diseases could be prevented by enforcing state law, which bans sex between inmates. Republicans who oppose the bill said distributing condoms in prisons will only encourage sex between male inmates.

Sen. Charles Poochigian, R-Fresno, said the bill "sends entirely the wrong message."

"Prisons are to punish criminals. They shouldn't be sanctioning activities that are illicit," said Poochigian, who is running for state attorney general.

Instead, Poochigian said state prisons should clamp down on prison gang activity, which encourages sexual acts between inmates.

The bill's opponents also said inmates could use condoms as weapons or as devices to hide illegal drugs.

California prisons have an average of 1,240 inmates infected with HIV/AIDS, costing the department more than $18 million a year in health care, according 2003-2004 data provided by the state Department of Corrections.

Condoms are available in prisons in Vermont and Mississippi, as well as in jails in New York City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Philadelphia and the District of Columbia, according to research by Koretz's office.

Australia, Canada, most of the European Union and parts of Latin America also allow condoms to be distributed in prison, according to the Koretz research, which was compiled from AIDS foundations and academic studies.

The Senate approved the bill Thursday 22-16 along party lines.

A Schwarzenegger spokesman said the governor had not taken a position on the bill.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab1677; aids; callegislation; calprisons; condoms; prisons
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1 posted on 08/27/2006 10:26:45 AM PDT by calcowgirl
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Sen. Charles Poochigian, R-Fresno, said the bill "sends entirely the wrong message."

"Prisons are to punish criminals. They shouldn't be sanctioning activities that are illicit," said Poochigian, who is running for state attorney general.

Instead, Poochigian said state prisons should clamp down on prison gang activity, which encourages sexual acts between inmates.

Poochigian for AG

2 posted on 08/27/2006 10:27:25 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Why is there such a problem with 'solitary confinement for all prisoners'?? It's a PRISON, not a social club! Ack. Maybe prison would be a better deterrent if it was actually something scary, you think?


3 posted on 08/27/2006 10:32:49 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: calcowgirl

I think this is a good idea because it could help prevent the spread of disease to prison rape victims. Plus it could probably help cut prison healthcare costs.


4 posted on 08/27/2006 10:38:36 AM PDT by Sandy
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With roughly 1 prison employee per inmate, one wonders when inmates get all this "intimate" time together.


5 posted on 08/27/2006 10:51:58 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

The sociopathic rapists aren't aren't going to wear the condoms anyway. The sensible solution is to have them on giant treadmills generating electricity.


6 posted on 08/27/2006 11:03:28 AM PDT by Wristpin ("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
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To: Sandy

I don't know when it happened, but it is apparent to me that Free Republic has become ever increasingly populated by juveniles, who lack the ability to think critically. Your response is evidence of that! May God help us!


7 posted on 08/27/2006 11:19:06 AM PDT by old school
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I'm shocked there's sex going on in prison! What's actually objectionable isn't human nature but that the taxpayers should be forced to subsidize people's basest instinct behind bars.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

8 posted on 08/27/2006 11:22:36 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: calcowgirl
Various studies put the incidence of homosexual activity inside prisons at between 30 percent and 60 percent of male inmates, while the rate of HIV infection is at least five times that of the outside population, Koretz said.

The salient question is, what is the rate of those entering prison with HIV versus those LEAVING prison with HIV?? That's what should determine the necessity of this "legislation".

9 posted on 08/27/2006 11:30:51 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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You would think given such dire statistics, the Democrats would be for ABSTINENCE. Its revealing they think its OK for inmates to engage in one of the behaviors known to SPREAD AIDS/HIV - as long as they wear a condom doing it. The truth is a condom is illusory protection but helps remembering liberalism is about feelings not about dealing with the facts. So people will continue to get infected and die so the Democrats can look good in front of the TV cameras.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

10 posted on 08/27/2006 11:35:03 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: old school

Which part of what I said is incorrect? Do you think condoms don't decrease the spread of disease? Do you think treating infected inmates doesn't cost money? Do you think inmates won't use condoms? Do you just disagree with my belief that decreased disease is desirable? Or what?


11 posted on 08/27/2006 11:38:30 AM PDT by Sandy
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To: goldstategop
You would think given such dire statistics, the Democrats would be for ABSTINENCE.

You still think better of the Democrats than I. I think they haven't reached rock bottom in how far they stoop.
12 posted on 08/27/2006 11:42:44 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: calcowgirl
With roughly 1 prison employee per inmate, one wonders when inmates get all this "intimate" time together.

Correcting my own post... I meant to say

With roughly 1 prison employee for every three inmates...

13 posted on 08/27/2006 11:47:50 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Sandy
I think this is a good idea because it could help prevent the spread of disease to prison rape victims.

Do you think a prison rapist is going to put on a condom?

14 posted on 08/27/2006 11:48:57 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: goldstategop
Its revealing they think its OK for inmates to engage in one of the behaviors known to SPREAD AIDS/HIV ...

Homophobe! /s
Watch out... they might come after you for hate speech and discrimination!

15 posted on 08/27/2006 11:51:41 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Do you think a prison rapist is going to put on a condom?

While he's raping someone? Of course not.

16 posted on 08/27/2006 11:53:50 AM PDT by Sandy
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While he's raping someone? Of course not.

Then how would condoms "help prevent the spread of disease to prison rape victims. "

17 posted on 08/27/2006 12:07:41 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Wristpin

LOL!!


18 posted on 08/27/2006 12:08:48 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: Sandy

Firstly, all condoms, including latex, are permeable. While some condoms may prevent the passage of some microbes, none prevent the passage of the aids virus. The idea that they do, is one of the biggest frauds, perpetrated on the public to date! Secondly, I cannot imagine, why in the world, anyone would want to legitimize and act which is patently illegal and, by any reasonable standards, immoral!


19 posted on 08/27/2006 12:16:59 PM PDT by old school
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"Assemblyman Paul Koretz, D-West Hollywood, said in a statement."

Comment: Having lived in those times I can say without hesitation that prior to 1960 this individual would have never been elected. Today he gives us the law. Condoms are his 'Good,' they are what he values, a reflection of what he is. Therefore, do not be suprised at what he and his ilk impose upon the people.

20 posted on 08/27/2006 12:19:55 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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