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To: pillut48
We are admonished to not take the mark of the beast.

One cannot "receive" something unless they "accept" it, which implies willingness. Thus, the mark is not forced, though there may be various levels of persuasion used. Ultimately, those that receive the mark do so of their own free will.

They will be given a "choice" to take the mark or not, to live or die based on that.They spoke the words. The option would have been to not speak. They chose to speak. Yes, they were pressured, but they still chose to speak.

"Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell" (Matt. 10:28).

Having said that, I think Centanni and Wiig are ok. They were released and have had time to renounce what they 'chose to do' under extreme pressure.

BUT, I think the real thing to take away from this is WHAT IF THEY HAD BEEN BEHEADED IMMEDIATELY AFTER THEY SPOKE THE LAST WORDS OF THEIR 'CONVERSION'? What if they had no opportunity to recant or repent?

967 posted on 08/27/2006 11:56:19 AM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: ET(end tyranny)

They would stand face to face with Jesus and settle the matter there, if they truly are Christians (and under duress)...and if not, it really wouldn't matter, would it?

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the Way, and the Truth, and the Life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by Me." John 14:6
KJV


969 posted on 08/27/2006 12:01:23 PM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: ET(end tyranny)

I ask you this in all sincerity, for clarification:
If a professed Christian commits a sin that out and out violates any of, let's say, the Ten Commandments, and die while they were committing the sin, do you feel they lose their salvation because they didn't "have time" to repent of that particular action? And, do you believe if they had lived five minutes longer and repented of it, they would have received salvation back, instead?


970 posted on 08/27/2006 12:04:02 PM PDT by DaughterofEve (Proverbs 3:5-6)
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