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To: Quix
I am not the first nor shall I probably be the last to question the motives of Saul in his actions to undermine early Christianity. Most certainly there is an element of jealousy by his contemporaries if he were blessed enough to have experienced a one on one with the Supra-Entity but give me a moment for me to place upon my head my prosecutor's cap, if you will.

Think of the moment in time when the first hand witnesses of the Messiah are organizing their flocks, rather than unity, there is much argument regarding interpretation of His word, hierarchiacal organization and who exactly may become a Christian and how they do so. Remember, Judaism WAS NOT an evangelical religion and most of the early followers of Christ believed it was necessary to be a Jew in order to become a Christian.

So here comes Saul on his ride to Damascus to terrorize the Christian community when he has a temporal lobe seizure, blinding light, auditory hallucination, loss of consciousness into dream state. As a good Jew, his epiphany was not to assist the "church" but how to divide it. He does so by splitting the congregation, tosses out the dietary laws, flip-flops on circumsion, tells the women they must cover their heads.

In other words, Saul doesn't do the early Christians any favors and the churchs grows not because of him, but in spite of him.

Finally, maybe I wasn't there when light was separated from the darkness or cannot swallow the waters as the behemoth but you don't know me or don't know what I have experienced, you certainly don't know from where I speak.

1,211 posted on 08/29/2006 6:52:51 AM PDT by olde north church (Absolutism is ALWAYS wrong.)
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To: olde north church

I still strongly disagree.

I think the record is quite clear enough. God confirmed Paul's ministry very abundantly.

The position described seems to think God was foolish and schlocky about watching over the early beginnings of His Church.

Not remotely my construction on reality.


1,216 posted on 08/29/2006 9:10:08 AM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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