To: Kozak
I did at the time wish the president had requested a good old fashioned declaration of war just to prevent such legal hair splitting.
Me too. I wrote a brief essay on FR, at the time, asking for a declaration of war. One of the reasons I gave was to make it clear that things were temporarily different during the time of war. Like you, I foresaw that we might have problems like this.
Nevertheless, Congress did NOT declare war. That's just a fact. Can't change it by talking about it on FR. They authorized force, but DID NOT declare war.
Because Congress authorized the use of force, I'd be inclined to believe that, if these exact people were in a combat zone, that the executive has the authority to kill them. It does not appear, however, that the executive was granted the authority to block US citizens from returning to the USA. That's something that was not done even the past when war was actually declared (the Japanese / German / Italian exclusion zones did not bar American Citizens from living in the USA, only excluded them from certain zones).
To summarize:
1. we are not at war
2. even if we were at war, it's not clear that this action on the part of the feds would be legal (though there would likely be a much stronger argument to be made)
3. in any case, it appears that the executive branch overreached it's authority.
To: Jubal Harshaw
in any case, it appears that the executive branch overreached it's authority.
In your opinion. My guess is the executive branch feels otherwise.
93 posted on
08/26/2006 9:35:41 PM PDT by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: Jubal Harshaw
Yeah, well neither you, nor Bob Barr got very far!!! You're both just way too radical. Now Bob Barr works for the ACLU and will probably get an ulcer, or have a stroke...
103 posted on
08/26/2006 9:45:58 PM PDT by
SierraWasp
(I'm voting on everything except CA Governor this year cause there's NOTHING to vote "for"!!!)
To: Jubal Harshaw
Nevertheless, Congress did NOT declare war. The constitution does NOT specify the form of a declaration of war. Authorizing hostilities is not functionally distinguishable from a "declaration of war."
And we most certainly are at war.
204 posted on
09/20/2006 3:15:09 AM PDT by
Petronski
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