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To: TexasJackFlash

"About half of the colonies were religion based. But that all came tumbling down in 1776 with the commencement of the revolution.

By 1788, only four of the thirteen states had establishments of religion. By 1790, only three had establishments of religion."

I think that you're trying to sidestep the real issue with respect to states getting rid of state religions. Your statement ignores that if a given state got rid of its state religion that it was exercising its 10th Amendment power to do so, not because an issue was being made that the state was violating the 1st Amendment's prohibition on the religious powers of the federal government.


107 posted on 08/31/2006 3:20:26 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Amendment10
My attitude is that the states can establish all the religions that they want to with their 10th A. powers.
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States are prohibited some powers [by the Constitution] in the 10th. -- The document itself, along with its Amendments, enumerates those prohibited powers, and in the 9th says that certain rights shall not be denied or disparaged.

And, as Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free execise thereof; -- it stands to reason that States too are so prohibited, -- and shall make no such laws.

Of course, this rationale was not percisely specified in the 1st, leading to much dispute, -- which was finally resolved by the 14th's words making it crystal clear that States were not to ignore our rights to life, liberty, or property.

-- if a given state got rid of its state religion it was exercising its 10th Amendment power to do so, not because an issue was being made that the state was violating the 1st Amendment's prohibition on the religious powers of the federal government.
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The federal government has no "religious powers". The USSC has only the power to issue an opinion that a State law is infringing on our rights. The executive & congress decide whether to enforce that opinion.
-- in any case, the original States quickly acknowledged that state supported religions were infringements on liberty.. Prospective states, like Utah, that tried to establish religions, were denied Statehood.

Thus, your 'attitude' on this issue is moot.

169 posted on 09/02/2006 7:53:31 PM PDT by tpaine
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