Mitt's Evangelical Breakthrough

The American Spectator ^ | 8/25/06 | W. James Antle III

[Jeff Fuller]

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10274

Things are looking up for Mitt Romney. Not only has the outgoing Massachusetts governor been getting reasonably favorable press from usually hostile places but, courtesy of George Allen's Macaca moment, his position in the 2008 Republican presidential field suddenly looks more secure -- the most viable candidate to the right of front-runners John McCain and Rudy Giuliani.

Romney appears to sense the opportunity . . . (READ ON at the link above)

[Jeff Fuller]

Again, JohnnyZ failed to tell the whole story and seems to be all about "shocking headlines" rather than "substantive sotries." Again, Romney's pragmatism wins out (as you will see below). He has navigated uber-liberal MA politics as well as can be expected and has definitely had to "pick his battles" (and restricting abortion laws and preventing gay judges from being on low-level criminal courts were not at the top of his list of battles he took on) Below I'm pasting in what I've composed for my blogsite . . . it is long, but I think it clears the air more on Romney's judicial appointments: What I've created below is in response to a commonly recurring attack on Romney: that he can't be trusted to appoint good conservative/constructionist judges because of his record of judicial appointees as Massachusetts Governor, specifically regarding gay-activist judges. The issue came up in a discussion thread to an article I posted on Free Republic (Over 135 comments so far, and some heated debate). One comment (#123), by JohnnyZ summed up the most common attack:

Romney's record on judges is perhaps the most atrocious part of his political record. He has nominated not one but TWO homosexual liberal Democrat gay marriage activists as judges in Massachusetts. Most of his judicial nominations have been Democrats. There are no reported instances of Mitt fighting for more conservative judges in Massachusetts. By all accounts the liberal Democrats who must approve his picks have had no complaints with his selections. (That's a good indication he's not doing his job right!!!) I wouldn't put anything past a flip-flopper like Romney, but going from nominating pro-gay marriage activist Democrats, who are openly homosexual themselves, to nominating conservative justices for the Supreme Court -- well, really, it does strain credulity.

Romney has also been attacked on Red State (Usually by Gary Glenn) several times on this issue and it will be a recurring mantra for those trying to discredit Romney on the issue of abortion (since SCOTUS nominees represent the greatest influence a POTUS can have on the abortion issue). Governor Romney has been criticized by some conservatives for not appointing enough Republican judges. As you read this, I think you'll come to understand that Romney has done an excellent job on judicial appointees, has been pragmatic, and has navigated the liberal waters of Massachusetts politics better than one would have expected. Hopefully, this piece, in combination with Nathan Burd's excellent piece "A Pro-Life Perspective on a Mitt Romney Presidency" can act as resources for Romney supporters wanting to "clear the air" when Romney is incorrectly criticized on these points. Much of what follows comes from a Boston Globe article from July 2005. I have "sterilized" out much of the anti-Romney slant that we've all come to expect out of that left-leaning rag (but you can go to the link and read it all). As of one year ago Romney had nominated 9 Republicans and 14 Democrats as judicial appointees (and a host of "unenrolled" appointees) . . . this in a state where Democrats outnumber Republicans nearly 4-1 and the legislature is 87% Democrats. Sounds like Romney is beating the statistics there! But what is impressive, is that for Romney, it's not just about playing politics with judicial appointees. The article states:

With increased attention on judicial nominees after President Bush's nomination of John G. Roberts Jr. to the US Supreme Court, Romney said Friday that he has not paid a moment's notice to his nominees' political leanings or sexual orientation -- or to the impact his choices might have on a future presidential run. He said he has focused on two factors: their legal experience and whether the nominees would be tough on crime. He said most of the nominees have prosecutorial experience.

The governor said that, so far, he has had few chances to appoint judges to the highest state courts, where his criteria would change to include ''strict construction, judicial philosophy." ''With regards to those at the district court and clerk magistrate level, their political views aren't really going to come into play unless their views indicate they will be soft on crime, because in that case, apply elsewhere," Romney said.

The above is a key point. Ziuko on Red State commented: "If Federal courts are the major leagues, state [and district] courts aren't even the minor leagues, they're a pick up game of tee ball. Having the right connections seems to be about the only important attribute for any candidate. Judicial philosophy never seems to enter into it." So, I would ask what the big hullabaloo is about Romney's appointments (the two that had a history of gay activism OUTSIDE of the courtroom)? Who gives a rip if a small-time criminal court judge is gay!?!--especially if they have a judicial record of being tough on crime and are working in criminal courts!

Romney won praise in the legal community when he replaced regional judicial nominating committees that were viewed as politically tainted with a centralized Judicial Nominating Commission. The commission considers applicants using a ''blind" first phase of the selection process that removes names from applications in an attempt to ensure the candidates will be judged on their merits. In addition, all of Romney's nominees have been submitted to a Joint Bar Committee on Judicial Nominations, which rates candidates as qualified, well-qualified, or unqualified -- and each has been found to be either qualified or well-qualified.

As a Harvard Law cum laude graduate, Romney obviously knows a thing or two about proper qualifications for a good judge . . . not one that he's recommended has been considered "unqualified." The BG article continues:

there is evidence to suggest that Romney is making sure his fellow Republicans and conservatives get a piece of the action. Romney has faced criticism from Governor's Councilors and some bar associations for failing to nominate more women, minorities, and defense attorneys to the bench. Seeking to counter such attacks, Romney's appointee to the chairmanship of the Judicial Nominating Commission, Boston lawyer Christopher D. Moore, has reached out to minority and women's bar associations to encourage members to apply. He's done the same with the state lesbian and gay bar association, which also has a seat on Romney's joint bar committee.

Later, some more about Moore:

Romney's choice to chair the Judicial Nomination Commission, Moore, is a member of the Federalist Society, a conservative legal group that fights ''judicial activism" and promotes the legal system as the preeminent venue for protecting ''traditional values."

Then comes one of the "kickers" . . . seeing who Romney has to get his nominees passed through:

After Romney nominates the candidate, the pick must be approved by the Governor's Council , where Democrats hold eight of nine seats [all of them elected officials . . . not Romney appointments see here]. . . ''He's tried to have a process devoid of politics, [but] he also has to get his nominees approved by the Governor's Council, and that is not a bipartisan body," said Jones, of Reading. ''The biggest problem in trying to reform the system to make it devoid of politics is that not everyone else buys into that model." Romney, asked if he has engaged in any horse-trading with Democratic politicians, said: ''So far I have not ever given any weight whatsoever to whether I think someone can make it through the Governor's Council. I send them individuals who I feel are highly qualified and have the right judicial temperament related to crime and punishment

But what about higher level appointees?

Peter Vickery, one of the Democrats on the Governor's Council, says he believes Romney and Moore would seek far more conservative jurists if a vacancy were to pop up on the Supreme Judicial Court, which delivered the gay marriage decision that Romney has routinely blasted. Some of Romney's nominees do have stellar Republican or conservative bona fides. For example, Romney's pick for Peabody clerk magistrate, Kevin L. Finnegan, is a former two-term Republican state representative. Another choice was Bruce R. Henry, the son-in-law of former SJC Justice Joseph Nolan -- whom Romney wanted to represent his administration in seeking a stay of the court's gay marriage ruling.

Taking another angle altogether . . . Romney recently refused to re-appoint David Gorton, the former Commissioner on the Appellate Tax Board (a panel of five judges), in part because of his questionable ethics and his outspoken gay activism negatively influencing his job performance. According to this article:

"I won't rule out homophobia," said Gorton, who has been a gay rights activist and community leader. From 1988 to 1994, Gorton served as chair of the Greater Boston Gay &Lesbian Political Alliance. Currently, he is on the board of directors for The Gay & Lesbian Review, serving as its clerk. The rub for Romney, Gordon believes, stems from the governor's presidential ambitions. "The religious right hates gay activists with a passion, and I am the kind of guy who would raise red flags," Gorton said. "Although I am a judge on the job and an activist on the side, I fit their stereotype of 'activist judge.'"

Although no gay-marriage tax cases have yet to come before the board, Gorton believes it is only a matter of time before they will. Gorton, who has served on the board for more than nine years, has expertise and experience with both kinds of appeals.

Looks like a position where a gay activist could negatively swing decisions/opinions. HUGE RED FLAG!! Fortunately, Romney had the sense to not re-appoint him. Therefore, does Romney get credit for taking away one gay activist judge? Will this subtract out either of the two that the anti-Romney conservatives are complaining about? I'm guessing they'll choose to ignore that piece of history. JohnnyZ said that Romney appointed "TWO homosexual liberal Democrat gay marriage activists" Well, lets look at these appointees in more depth. First is Stephen S. Abany who was appointed to district court(as an "Associate Justice," the lowest rung at the district court level) . . . first off, it turns out that he IS NOT a registered Democrat (so JohnnyZ was wrong again . . . no surprise there I guess, I'm getting quite used to it) but his leanings and voting are generally liberal (AKA Democratic). Abany was 57 years old when he was appointed to a DISTRICT Court . . . not even a remote threat to rise up through the judicial system to become a Supreme Court caliber appointee. The other appointee JohnnyZ refers to isn't even homosexual (as far as anyone has publicly claimed). Marianne C. Hinkle, a longtime state and federal prosecutor (and VERY TOUGH ON CRIME), was the another nominee in question. She's a Democrat and a member of a group that tries to promote gay rights in the Catholic church but has no record of judicial/courtroom activism. She was appointed at the same "lowest rung" at the District Court level as Abany and she was similarly in her late 50's when appointed. This Romney guys knows what he's doing. He has been pragmatic and wise in his appointments given the environment he works in. Also, Romney has been a long-time and outspoken opponent of activist judges. He has tight ties with the Federalist Society and his private charity group has donated to it (liberals have criticized this before). What follows now is some of Romney's extensive record of being against activist judges and on coming down on the conservative side of court decisions: These Boston Globe piece excerpts help show that Romney is on the right side of the judicial activism issue:

WASHINGTON -- Governor Mitt Romney leveled an unusually personal attack yesterday at the Supreme Judicial Court for legalizing same-sex marriage in Massachusetts, telling a group of conservative lawyers and judges that the justices issued the ruling to promote their values and those of ''their like-minded friends in the communities they socialize in." Though Romney has criticized the SJC's watershed 2003 decision many times before, the broadside he delivered at the Federalist Society's National Lawyers Convention in Washington, D.C., was an atypically sharp and direct attack on the four justices who found that the Massachusetts Constitution afforded gays and lesbians the right to marry. ''If a judge substitutes his or her values for those values that were placed in the constitution, they do so at great peril to the culture of our entire land," he said. The remarks won applause from the 500 lawyers, scholars, and others who packed a ballroom to hear Romney's speech. . . . Romney ended his speech by praising the new chief justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, and President Bush's current pick to replace outgoing Supreme Court justice Sandra Day O'Connor, Samuel A. Alito Jr. Several Federalist Society members said afterward that they were impressed by what they heard from Romney. ''I think he said the right thing: Decisions should be left to the people," said Peter Urbanowicz, a Dallas lawyer.

And quotes back from 2004 from another piece:

Romney: ''Beware of activist judges. The Legislature is our lawmaking body, and it is the Legislature's job to pass laws. . . . While the law protects states from being forced to recognize gay marriage, activist state courts could reach a different conclusion, just as ours did. It would be disruptive and confusing to have a patchwork of inconsistent marriage laws between states. Amending the Constitution may be the best and most reliable way to prevent such confusion and preserve the institution of marriage." (Wall Street Journal op-ed, Feb. 5, 2004) Romney: ''The real threat to the states is not the constitutional amendment process, in which the states participate, but activist judges who disregard the law and redefine marriage in order to impose their will on the states, and on the whole nation. At this point, the only way to reestablish the status quo ante is to preserve the definition of marriage in the federal Constitution before courts redefine it out of existence." (Testimony to Senate Judiciary Committee, June 22, 2004)

Even earlier that year he wrote a powerful opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal called "One Man, One Woman: A citizen's guide to protecting marriage"

Beware of activist judges. The Legislature is our lawmaking body, and it is the Legislature's job to pass laws. As governor, it is my job to carry out the laws. The Supreme Judicial Court decides cases where there is a dispute as to the meaning of the laws or the constitution. This is not simply a separation of the branches of government, it is also a balance of powers: One branch is not to do the work of the other. It is not the job of judges to make laws, the job of legislators to command the National Guard, or my job to resolve litigation between citizens. If the powers were not separated this way, an official could make the laws, enforce them, and stop court challenges to them. No one branch or person should have that kind of power. It is inconsistent with a constitutional democracy that guarantees to the people the ultimate power to control their government. With the Dred Scott case, decided four years before he took office, President Lincoln faced a judicial decision that he believed was terribly wrong and badly misinterpreted the U.S. Constitution. Here is what Lincoln said: "If the policy of the government upon vital questions affecting the whole people is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court, the instant they are made in ordinary litigation between parties in personal actions the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned their government into the hands of that eminent tribunal." By its decision, the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts circumvented the Legislature and the executive, and assumed to itself the power of legislating. That's wrong.

Yet another quote:

''He's trying to get candidates who are conservative and probusiness and who have a prosecutorial background, tough on crime, and to use the words that have been flying around for a few years, he doesn't want any of those activist judges on the bench," said Kathleen M. O'Donnell, past president of the Massachusetts Bar Association.

From the Christian Broadcasting Network:

"As governor, all of the issues that have come to my desk that have dealt with the matter of abortion, I have decided on the side of life," Romney said. The pro-life Romney now seems to have the entire social conservative values package. He is also not pleased with activist judges and supports the push for a constitutional amendment protecting traditional marriage. "The idea of not allowing ‘Under God’ in the Pledge of Allegiance or taking ‘In God we trust’ off our coins – those are just nutty," Romney said.

While in Georgia recently Romney said of the Gitmo ruling:

Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts said Thursday that the U.S. Supreme Court ruling on Guantanamo Bay detainees was just another reason why the nation should elect a Republican president again in 2008 _ to get more conservative judges on the high court. The Supreme Court ruled that President Bush overstepped his authority in ordering military war crimes trials for Guantanamo Bay detainees, saying in a strong rebuke that the trials were illegal under U.S. and international law. The court declared 5-3 that the trials for 10 foreign terror suspects violate U.S. law and the Geneva conventions. "To apply the Geneva accords is very strange in my view,"

On Eminent Domain Ruling (part of this is from the Hugh Hewitt show):

HH: Last question, Governor. Today, the Supreme Court upheld a extraordinary exercise of eminent domain on private property for transfer to other private property. Are you surprised by this? Does it alarm you? MR: You know, the Supreme Court made an error in judgment on this one. You know, I understand the purpose of eminent domain, to make sure that when roads need to be built, or public purposes are involved, that private property can be taken when there's fair compensation. But to basically say a mall developer could get eminent domain to take away peoples' homes, that is not a good idea. The liberals on the Court made a mistake on this, and we're going to have to get a Court that's willing to stand by the rights of property owners

Obviously, Romney's pragmatism will continue to turn off some ultra-conservatives and they will continue to label him as a RINO or some other derogatory label. But many of their attacks are either dishonest or flat out wrong and need to be combated. Are there more conservative politicians out there? Sure. Can any of them make a serious run at winning the presidency? Not looking like it now. Can any of them lead as effectively as Romney could? I highly doubt it. Romney's record of judicial appointees is not worrisome to this Reagan Republican. I look forward to a potential President Romney nominating constructionist and qualified individuals to the SCOTUS, just like he has said he would. One thing you'd be hard pressed to attack Romney on is his record of keeping campaign promises. He has been a man, and politician, of his word--truly a rare gem in our country today.

[JohnnyZ]

Romney's appointee to the chairmanship of the Judicial Nominating Commission, Boston lawyer Christopher D. Moore, has reached out to minority and women's bar associations to encourage members to apply. He's done the same with the state lesbian and gay bar association, which also has a seat on Romney's joint bar committee.

So Romney's man is actively soliciting gays and lesbians to become judges.

Great. I'm filled with confidence.

Barney Frank for Supreme Court!

[JohnnyZ]

Not when his record in office backs up his stance, unlike the records of the Dems you've mentioned.

None of the Democrats I mentioned have personally had an abortion. Like Romney, they're pro-life for themselves (who cares?) and support legal abortion for everyone else.

[sitetest]

Dear Jeff Fuller,

A long, tough slog, but ultimately, it doesn't make me think that Mr. Romney will fight hard for conservative nominees to the United States Supreme Court.

Here's why:

"He has navigated uber-liberal MA politics as well as can be expected and has definitely had to 'pick his battles' (and restricting abortion laws and preventing gay judges from being on low-level criminal courts were not at the top of his list of battles he took on)"

In that he doesn't see shaping the courts in Massachusetts as one of the battles worth picking, I'm not filled with confidence that, overwhelmed with other important issues should he become president, he'll be particularly concerned with this one.

The false dichotomy you (and he) set up between picking judges for lower courts and judges for the state's top court suggests that the governor might not fully understand that ultimately, his picks for the top court will be heavily influenced and partially determined in large part by who is on the lower courts. That's just as alarming as his decision to "pick his battles" elsewhere.

The problem for Gov. Romney is that he has a long history as a "personally opposed" pro-abort. Pro-lifers figured out years ago when Gov. Cuomo first tried this garbage that personally opposed-pro-aborts are entirely and completely useless to the cause of protecting the lives of the unborn in law.

It's not clear whether the governor is trying to claim that he's always been, really, a pro-lifer, or whether he's now claiming to have had a conversion on the issue.

I understand that the governor thinks that it was necessary to be a pro-abort to run for governor in Massachusetts. I also understand that now he believes it's necessary to be a pro-lifer to run for the Republican nomination for president.

It would help the governor to pick a story and stick to it. Either he's been a crypto-pro-lifer who lied to the people of Massachusetts to get elected governor, or he's had a rather dramatic conversion experience (going from believing that abortion is a constitutional right to believing that the law should protect the unborn is a rather dramatic shift). Maybe he'd been brainwashed previously? ;-)

At the very least, it may make the governor look a little less like an opportunist, if he can pick a story and keep it straight.


sitetest

[Jeff Fuller]

Sitetest,

I'm really not trying to play "last word" here, but . . .


You said: "the governor might not fully understand that ultimately, his picks for the top court will be heavily influenced and partially determined in large part by who is on the lower courts."

Explain please . . . I'm really not following you completely.

You said: "In that he doesn't see shaping the courts in Massachusetts as one of the battles worth picking,"

Maybe you were unaware, but he's done a huge job reforming the judicial nominating procedure in MA! The reason he could get through 9 Republicans to only 13 Dems is because he completely reformed the system to make nominations "blind" initially to the committee.

"Romney won praise in the legal community when he replaced regional judicial nominating committees that were viewed as politically tainted with a centralized Judicial Nominating Commission. The commission considers applicants using a ''blind" first phase of the selection process that removes names from applications in an attempt to ensure the candidates will be judged on their merits."

When the Committee has approved of somebody's application based on qualifications without being able to know who they are or their political leanings, they would look pretty silly to backtrack.

Also, I guess you are choosing to "not believe" Romney nor the Democrats on the council when they both say that Romney would eye strict constructionists for higher posts.

The governor said that, so far, he has had few chances to appoint judges to the highest state courts, where his criteria would change to include ''strict construction, judicial philosophy"

"Peter Vickery, one of the Democrats on the Governor's Council, says he believes Romney and Moore would seek far more conservative jurists if a vacancy were to pop up on the Supreme Judicial Court"

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Also, Romney is/has been claiming a "conversion" on abortion. It is an interesting situation because of the "soon to be family member" that died of an illegal abortion. That drove his mother to be a fairly staunch pro-choicer and it (and she) obviously heavily influenced Mitt (95%+ of Mormons are firm "pro-lifers" so it would take something pretty dramatic like that to sway his mother away from church counsel . . . and he took the "personally against it, but not impose my views" stance, which I do not respect nor endorse). However, as a political executive, he's realized the vast influence his decisions have on "right to life" issues. He studied hard and long the stem-cell/cloning bill and that was when he had the conversion to the importance of legislating/governing in a pro-life manner. Romney has voted/vetoed on the side of life on every occasion as a politician.

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From your comments, I doubt I will ever "convince" you toward my side of viewing things. You seem very skeptical and I'm not sure a campaigning Romney will convince you either. However, if he is President, I have full confidence that he will convince you and other skeptics (believe it or not, being trained in science and medicine, I'm a pretty staunch skeptic by nature as well . . . just ask my wife!)

P.S. . . . I liked the "brainwashed" dig. You know your "Romney's", eh?

[Treader]

Fundamentalists are crap sellers, regardless of proclaimed truth. Inside that argument- are those that prefer a civil war. Choosing the lesser of two evils is exactly what some, have always proffered. Could it be possible to choose upon, at least, two higher courses of action? Or do you insist upon the lower expectation?

[sitetest]

Dear Jeff Fuller,

Sorry to take so long to respond. Yesterday was... busy.

"I'm really not trying to play 'last word' here, but . . . "

No, no, don't worry about it. I'm interested in the information you're providing, and appreciate the dialogue.

"You said: 'the governor might not fully understand that ultimately, his picks for the top court will be heavily influenced and partially determined in large part by who is on the lower courts.'

"Explain please . . . I'm really not following you completely."

Often, judges appointed to higher courts have lower court experience. The judges who sit on the lower courts of Massachusetts are part of the pool of judges who might be appointed to appeals courts and to the state's highest court. Thus, in not trying to appoint mostly or all "strict constructionists" to lower courts, a substantial part of the pool for the state's higher courts will not be "strict constructionists."

That will make it more difficult to nominate appropriate candidates to the higher courts.

As well, his efforts to reform the process are largely lost in that he isn't appointing "strict constructionists" to the lower courts.

"Also, I guess you are choosing to 'not believe' Romney nor the Democrats on the council when they both say that Romney would eye strict constructionists for higher posts."

Other than his word, there isn't any reason to believe him. It isn't a part of his history. And as for his word, well, for a long time, he was also a pro-abort, and now he says he's not.

"Peter Vickery, one of the Democrats on the Governor's Council, says he believes Romney and Moore would seek far more conservative jurists if a vacancy were to pop up on the Supreme Judicial Court"

He might. Or not. Part of his difficulty will be twofold:

- He will have narrowed the pool of judges from which he could pick a conservative, because he will have appointed a large number of non-conservatives to the lower courts;

- He will have chosen the wrong time and place to have his battle. The folks who oppose conservative nominees will say stuff like, "Gov. Romney for nearly four years has appointed good mainstream [read: liberal] judges to the lower courts, but now he wants to go backwards and try to appoint this out-of-the-mainstream wild-eyed conservative to our highest court!"

The time to draw the line in the stand was way before making appointments to the higher courts. Truly conservative choices, contrasted with the prior more liberal choices, can easily be painted as "out-of-the-mainstream."

"He studied hard and long the stem-cell/cloning bill and that was when he had the conversion to the importance of legislating/governing in a pro-life manner."

That's part of my problem. He previously described abortion as a "woman's right." To say that studying the stem cell issue caused him now to believe that abortion not only is not a right but should actually be illegal seems to me to be a large shift coming from a small thing. I mean, heck, Jeff, the fact that over 1.2 million people are being killed per year didn't dissuade him but the idea that a hundred or perhaps even a thousand unborn humans would be killed through stem cell research did??

It looks, feels, smell like political opportunism.

I need a better storyline before I can suspend my disbelief.

"P.S. . . . I liked the 'brainwashed' dig. You know your 'Romney's', eh?"

LOL. I couldn't resist. Sorry. ;-)


sitetest

[Celtman]

My, My, My.  Can you cite a single example of a fundamentalist preferring civil war?

[Treader]

Reread the first two lines of my post, that you questioned. Fred Phelps and his Westboro Baptist Church provide a single example- of being funded and supported by those who want civl war in our Nation. There are many fundamentalist Churches that absolutely support the overthrow of the US Goverment. The FBI has had those orgs., on the domestic terror list for decades. Since you claim the Great State of Oklahoma on your personal page, I find it hard to believe your naiviete'- yet, I am willing to accept it. If you are really interested- do some research.

[Celtman]

      News flash - not all Baptists are fundamentalists.  Not everyone described by the drive by media as a fundamentalist is a fundamentalist.  Not everyone who proclaims himself a fundamentalist is a fundamentalist.  In particular, Fred Phelps is not a fundamentalist (His virulent anti-Semetism and anti-war stance is despicable and his theology is quite warped.)  Neither are white supremacist militia groups fundamentalists.

      As for Oklahoma, after living here for almost 30 years, I have met many fundamentalists, but not one single white supremacist militia man.

[Solitar]

NE RINO, if the RNC and the MSM pushes Romney, Rudy or McCain down our throats, I will write in Mickey Mouse for president. The people pimping for the above 3 are putting party above country.

All three are against our Right to Keep and Bear Arms -- arms such as military-class rifles which the Second Amendment was intended to guarantee our right to Keep and Bear.

Is there not ANY Republican who will be able to beat the Democrats AND defend our Right to Keep and Bear Arms?

[Treader]

Thanks for the news flash. You certainly made your point of view, easy to understand.

[restornu]

It is amazing this JZ is a real duzy he just a bundle of distortions!