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1 posted on 08/26/2006 10:52:41 AM PDT by rhema
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Interesting photos from a SF rally. I don't remember who posted them originally.

http://www.zombietime.com/stop_the_us_israeli_war_8_12_2006/


2 posted on 08/26/2006 10:56:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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And so it begins.

I am telling you, the only SAFE Muslim is dead or disarmed.


3 posted on 08/26/2006 10:59:36 AM PDT by Danae (Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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"The most honorable death is death by killing," Nasrallah told his followers last year.

"Our motto, which we are not afraid to repeat year after year, is 'Death to America,"' he also said.

Nasrallah deserves death by killing.

4 posted on 08/26/2006 11:00:06 AM PDT by operation clinton cleanup (Assistant to the traveling secretary.)
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How close is this nation to a civil war? Differences of opinion and ideology are one thing, but when a significant segment of our country actually cheers on evil, it's evidence of a serious and irreversible cancer within our society. We've been a polarized society for many years, but the gap between both sides is widening.


5 posted on 08/26/2006 11:00:21 AM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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Call everyone with whom you disagree a Nazi if it makes you feel better.
Okay.
But it's quite another to cheer on a terrorist organization.
Why?  The Nazis would have killed you just as dead.  Are we now to compartmentalize hatred and sanitize the 'gentler' strains?  The only reason the Japs didn't say, "Death to America," is because they were too busy dive-bombing it.  The absence of Muslims on Main street protesting Al Queda is the same as cheering it on.  Where's the condemnation of that in media?
6 posted on 08/26/2006 11:01:22 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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I cant understand why this reporter shows such amazement.

When Hezbalahcrat politicians in the House and Senate have been on the side of terrorists since George Bush got elected.

Are they un-American? Yes. They hide under the guise of Patriotism whlie spouting their hatred and instilling that hatred into thousands of stupid Constitutents dumb enough to believe them. George Bush hadnt been elected a week before they were attempting to find means to impeach him.
Instead of sucking up their loss and falling in behind the country ,they have tried in every means available to them to destroy the Administration and in turn the country.

Now they have this crazy fringe movement who would rather join the beheaders than "suffer" under a republican administration.Women, who have fought for the right to free abortions who would rather be stoned to death wearing burka's than be free under George Bush as President.

There is no doubt --liberalism is a mental disease.


8 posted on 08/26/2006 11:05:08 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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Nasrallah once referred to the American people as "most of whom are distant and ignorant of what is going on in the world."

And the American people will be the ones screaming "what's happening" when the vile hoard of Mohammedans lands on our shores and marches through this nation killing every "infidel" (read American) living here.

Reading this makes me sick to the stomach.

Sh'ma Yisrael Adonai Elohaynu Adonai Echad.
9 posted on 08/26/2006 11:07:01 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (In Memory of Crockett Nicolas, hit and run in the prime of his Cocker Spaniel life, 9/3/05.)
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The "reporters" at the Washington Post had them chanting "Rah, Rah Hezbollah"....

And they Washington Post is held out to be one of THE best papers?

Where they wearing fur coats, driving Model T's and drinking from hip flasks when they chantted ""Rah, Rah..."?

Guess they missed them chanting "Twenty Three Skiddo, Kill a Jew."

10 posted on 08/26/2006 11:07:53 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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Hey you HATE AMERICA Crowd..... Just Leave, go away, Hasta la Vista Baby. One way ticket out of here...dead or alive just fine. GO... be with your jihadists in the distant sand lands. Bye.....take all your liberal leftist friends too.


16 posted on 08/26/2006 11:11:44 AM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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Hezbollah was responsible for the deadliest terrorist attack on Americans before Sept. 11, 2001, when Marine barracks in Beirut were bombed in 1983, killing 241.

Anyone openly supporting the murder -- and the murderers -- of our troops needs to be arrested, tried and convicted for treason. Many of those Hizb'allah cheerleaders will be found to be illegal aliens, I'm sure, and should be deported.

Hello, USCIS, DHS, FBI... anyone...???

21 posted on 08/26/2006 11:17:07 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (Make your choice and save your tears....AM YISRAEL CHAI!)
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H.L. Mencken famously said, "No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people." P.T. Barnum would probably be the best exemplar of the practical utility of that fact, charging the morons two bits to line up and see the bearded lady and the two-headed boy; now the same people stage protests.


22 posted on 08/26/2006 11:17:52 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Most democrats overtly from their blogs down to their local politicians cheer on Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.
30 posted on 08/26/2006 11:37:52 AM PDT by FreeRep
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it's treason, and those committing it should be shot at dawn...america seems to have forgotten its treason laws...perhaps the "intellectually superior" lefties out there should read a bit about world history...no successful civilization in the history of the world would have tolerated the crap that america does...so unless america forgets about the political correctness, it will die from within, and it certainly won't survive the length of time that the roman empire and other great civilizations did

...america needs to racial profile those groups who are likely to be terrorists (ie, you spend your resources monitoring and searching 17-40 yr old middle eastern men, rather than 85 yr old swedish grandmothers, etc)...it also can't be having $20 million trials for guys like massoui from 9/11, even the mighty USA can't afford that endlessly...start enforcing treason laws like america did 200 years ago, and shoot them at dawn...and why immediately after 9/11 didn't all airlines adopt el al's passenger profiling methods (THE most thorough in the world)

...and why hasn't ALL muslim immigration stopped?...i realize that not every muslim is a bad muslim, but until we can determine who is who, don't allow ANY in (if two people were at your door late at night, and one was someone who wanted to kill you, and the other was not, would you let them both in because you couldn't tell who the murder was, and didn't want to hurt their feelings?! - well, i say if the bad one killed you, you would deserve it)

...as well, america needs to consider mass deportation of those who think they can say and do ANYTHING in america, whether it be financially supporting terrorism, or publicly protesting in favor of hezbollah, or burning US flags in dearborn, etc.

...if politicians don't get serious about this, and these fanatics start bombing american shopping malls, public schools, and subways, etc, then the american people will take matters into their own hands and you will see civil war...it may not happen for 20, 50, or even 100 yrs, but mark my words, the more insanity we tolerate the worse it will be and the greater the chances of a civil war within america itself

...a quote from abraham lincoln: "At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide. The Collected Works of Abraham Lincoln edited by Roy P. Basler, Volume I, "Address Before the Young Men's Lyceum,of Springfield, Illinois (January 27, 1838), p. 109.



33 posted on 08/26/2006 11:46:13 AM PDT by cobo
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There's just something about fanatics... If I could only put my finger on it. ;^)

The cause of fanaticism and why it's dangerous.

The fanatic has an elitist view of himself. He holds a firm belief that he is in some way special and has something that others, not like him, do not. Because of this basic self-view any disagreement with the elitist or any resistance to their actions causes anger. This "supreme" view of himself is an excuse for justifying his anger and thus justifying any act from deception to murder against those who disagree with or refuse to comply with him. He is comfortable with hatred, revenge, lying or any gross deception in defense of his special "superior" position acted out against those (the "others") who do resist him or refuse to validate his view(s).

It is impossible to reason or negotiate with someone who believes that they are morally and/or ethically superior to everyone else. Anything and everything you do to accommodate their "concerns" (demands), short of complete capitulation, will be discounted due to your "obvious" inherent inferiority. Any resistance to this, anything other than complete submission, actually becomes self-evident proof of their superiority and your inferiority. The elitist's mindset presupposes the rationale of rightness and righteousness as inherent only to themselves by virtue only of this self-superior self-image and not at all as a measure of the quality of their actions or their resulting consequences.

That mindset becomes the entire basis of their world-view. They may rest it on an ideology or philosophy that they choose to use as support or camoflage for it but the doctrine itself may or may not, loosely or strictly, support their view. It doesn't really need to as that is of secondary or even tertiary importance. The doctrine has relevance only as a tool. An indoctrinated fanatic may be completely unaware of this yet still be very skilled in its method. "I'm right you're wrong and this is where it says so" goes his thinking. The founders and leaders of fanatic movements know full well that the doctrine is nothing but a smokescreen. They're still right and you're still wrong but it "says so" in their minds only. When it gets down to brass tacks they "don't need no steenking doctrine" to support or hide their superior self-view.

Of course the opposite is true for the non-elites in the fanatic's mindset. You can never be right if you're not one of the "righteous." That is why a fanatic is so dangerous. Any and all evil acts can be justified on the basis of any disassociation whatsoever with the personal views and goals of the fanatic. With his identity. The intent and motivations of an outsider are irrelevant no matter how positive they are. Even the results of an outsider's actions are irrelevant no matter how accommodating or constructive or beneficial they are to the fanatic elitist. The outsider is always wrong because he won't submit to the fanatic's view.

The world is full of fanatics of many varieties and they can base their superior self-view on any pretext that works for them. Some belong to large groups of like-minded fanatics, some belong to a group that is not in itself fanatical but lends itself to the their needs and some are individuals under the delusion that they alone are special.

In today's world the United States in particular and western civilization in general are under a concerted assault from two separate groups of fanatic elitists. Fundamentalist Muslims and leftists. The Islamo-nazis and the Marxists. Both leftists and Islamo-fascists hold a firm belief that they are special and have something that "rednecks" and "infidels" don't have. For the leftists it is supposedly "superior intellect" and "social sophistication" that they possess and for the Islamo-nazis it's a "call from Allah," a "holy annointing."

Both groups are manifestations of a mass psychological disorder of fanatic elitism. Both are extremely unstable and are neither founded upon nor affected by sound logic or reason. Convinced of their own inherent superiority both groups will press their respective agendas as far as they can without regard for the consequences to themselves or to others. As with any fanatic the blame for all of their actions will logically fall on the shoulders of the "others," the outsiders. Negative consequences of their actions simply become another tool for self-vindication in the form of propaganda turned back on the outsider as "proof" of his inferiority.

The mindset of the fanatic elitist is the same as that of a rabid dog. The mindset of "us-and-them" on an inviolable scale. Nothing else has a valid existence for them if it doesn't submit completely to their view. Anyone and anything that doesn't submit is "total enemy." The outlook of neither the rabid dog nor the fanatic elitist can be affected by outside influence. The dog's mind is controlled by the fevered ravages of a virus; the fanatic's mind is controlled by a self-chosen paradigm that holds anything contrary to its own superiority in all matters as automatically self-negated and both the dog and the fanatic view anything that is other as a threat that must be destroyed.

For the fanatic elitist change can only occur from within and that means a change in their most basic self-view, the view that they are special and unique in a superior and dominating way. A view that all reasonable people must either fully reject or completely submit to. Those are the only choices the fanatic leaves to the others.

TigersEye - 7/27/05
(revised 8/20/06)


35 posted on 08/26/2006 11:50:04 AM PDT by TigersEye (Surrender to Islam, vote Democrat.)
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Left-wing anti-semetic hate groups; everything old is new again... German American Bund
36 posted on 08/26/2006 12:05:13 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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ONLY loyal Americans should have first amendment rights.Dissent should be quashed.This kind of talk can entice the overthrow of the government and that is not protected speach!


38 posted on 08/26/2006 12:52:24 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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Nasrallah once referred to the American people as "most of whom are distant and ignorant of what is going on in the world."

He may be evil but he seems to have a good idea about the level of comprehension that our mis-educated, propagandized fellows share.

44 posted on 08/26/2006 1:56:31 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Everything I need to know about Palestinian nationalism I learned on June 5, 1968.)
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The left has benefitted greatly from selective editing by the press. If national reporters did their job, Americans would have turned against The Left in a far bigger way than they have.


45 posted on 08/26/2006 5:26:29 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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But wait! The media told me that our Muslims were peaceful and assimilated. That can't possibly be false, can it?


47 posted on 08/26/2006 6:05:23 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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I think this is a legitimate case of speech that should be censored--undermining our government and values and promoting a group that uses hatred.


53 posted on 08/27/2006 2:05:46 PM PDT by boughtwithaprice
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