Posted on 08/25/2006 7:47:48 PM PDT by Alex Murphy
I probably would have voted for Coleman as he would be closer to my values even though he is not Christian. Mondale may be a Christian but his values and mine are 180 degrees opposite.
Yes we do have religious tests in this country. Secular law is just one component of our system. Although the left sure is trying hard to ethnicly cleanse us of religion. By the way that test is the person who pulls the handle on the voting machine.
Baited?? Sorry, I thought this was a forum.
Gee, she seemed okay sitting on that horse... She's alittle nutty.
E Pluribus Unum.
I can't speak for others who claim to be Christian as you know ANYONE can claim to be Christian, but it's by their fruits, behavior, conduct that you know them. OTOH can a non-Christian really determine what's good Christian behavior and what's not?
I still wouldn't legislate my morality over the morality of the community.
You mean like a community of liberals whose morality gives you a phlanderous, godless, God-mocking,immoral, excuse of a man like Clinton, or the possibility of a snide,lying, conniving, power-hungry, opportunistic individual like a Kerry for President, what about a community of homosexuals whose morality will give you same-sex marriage, pedophiles, trans-confused sexual identities, gay adoptions, gay t.v., gay movies, gay sex education such as fisting, the perversion, mocking and oppression of all religions , or how about a community of Hezbollah-loving Dearborn, Mi. based Muslims where Sharia Law morality would dominate?
Either you support and champion biblical morality in our elected officials upon which our system of government was founded and works best under, or be prepared to watch and say goodbye to the Constitution and the country the way it was intended, with all the glorious freedoms that resulted from it.
isn't political ideology enough for you? You know, how one stands on the issues.
You mean like the political ideology that gave us Communism and Stalin, or Nazism and Hitler , or ones that offer the world tyrant dictators like the Romans of old, or even now in some African and Latin American countries?
Pure political ideology will move to the extreme left or right unless balanced and tempered by the God-given principles established by God thru his Commandments and subsequently thru his Son, Jesus Christ.
He guided this country to greatness thru his servants, the Founding Fathers and other great men of Christian faith with the intent being for this great country to become a beacon of Light and Hope, and a witness to the world of his Greatness and Glory.
This cannot possibly take place either under a system that is at its core a godless politically based ideology or any system that has at its core a non-Christian based religious ideology. Christianity's practice and influence would not be tolerated under any other system other than the Judeo-Christian one that we inherited and were blessed with.
We have no religious tests for office in this country. Also, headship is different from stating that God appoints our leaders. He simply doesn't do that, unless you can tell me with a straight face that God put Bill Clinton in the Presidency.
Are you still sticking to your absurd position that the common law is a brand of fruit juice?
The " other side " are people who are not Christians. I have no animosity towards Jews,they are God's chosen people, and I am a big supporter of Israel but when I vote it is for someone who has values similar to mine. CHRISTIAN!
Is this concept to ridiculous for your pea sized brain?
Anyone who tosses around the epithet "pea brain" ought first to make sure that it does not apply to himself.
One who won't vote for a Jew because of his religion certainly qualifies. That's bigotry, plain and simple.
"Second call for Joe Lieberman! Joe Lieberman! Take that yarmulke off and leave the Capitol Building! You don't belong! No point hiding Joe, we'll find you!"
Yes we do have religious tests in this country.
The Founders demonstrably disagreed. You might benefit from reading the Constitution - they made such tests illegal.
Secular law is just one component of our system.
No, it is the entirety of our system of government.
Can you point to the section in the Constitution in which the Founders gave religious tenets supremecy over secular laws?
By the way that test is the person who pulls the handle on the voting machine.
True enough. People may chose to vote based upon whatever criteria they choose.
But if they refuse to vote for a candidate who is Jewish, or Sikh, or whatever, no matter how conservative that candidate is or what his stance on the issue is, solely because of the candidate's religion, that is the very definition of bigotry. And it's sad.
Ah, but you didn't mind inventing a strawman and attributing it to me. Hypocrisy.
They didn't grant the power to impose such tests to the federal government, reserving them instead to the states.
You lie.
Not at all.
Me Q. - Do you know where the common law came from?
You A. - The precedents, standards and customs practiced in the various states. No two states were identical in their common laws.
That would be at post 207. Sounds an awfully lot that you are saying the common law comes from the states.
Your ignorance of history and law is deep and strange.
"The Founders demonstrably disagreed...they made such tests illegal."
They didn't grant the power to impose such tests to the federal government, reserving them instead to the states.
Wow.
That's profoundly ignorant.
Article VI, Clause 3:
The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.
Very clear.
You may wish to try reading the Constitution sometime - you'll be amazed at what's in this amazing document.
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