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Katherine Harris says failure to elect Christians will `legislate sin'
KRT Wire ^ | 8/25/2006 | Jim Stratton

Posted on 08/25/2006 7:47:48 PM PDT by Alex Murphy

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To: sinkspur; JulieRNR21; potlatch; EternalVigilance; NYer

"Politically stupid, theologically stupid."



She certainly spoke her mind. Since you condemn her statement as theologically stupid, can you please provide Scripture to prove your case?



101 posted on 08/25/2006 10:18:33 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: CWOJackson

I do see the similarities! :)


102 posted on 08/25/2006 10:21:34 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (God Bless America and the men and women who serve in our military!)
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To: PhiKapMom

Yep...both believe they are "entitled" to the nomination and care more about their own egos then about the nation.


103 posted on 08/25/2006 10:22:51 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: nopardons

It is terrible to watch as it keeps getting worse. I am sending some quotes to a good friend of mine who won't quit laughing when Harris is described as sweet. He considers her one of the most arrogant and tempermental politicians he has ever been around. That's why she doesn't keep her staff. She won't listen to good advice either.


104 posted on 08/25/2006 10:23:16 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (God Bless America and the men and women who serve in our military!)
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?

"Actually electing Godless people is the best thing the US and other countries can do."



There is no Biblical case that can be accurately made for deliberate poor stewardship in choosing leaders.


105 posted on 08/25/2006 10:24:02 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: thoughtomator

She's PMS forever; maybe lithium would help. Can she leave already??????????


106 posted on 08/25/2006 10:26:40 PM PDT by widowithfoursons
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To: Torie

In 2000, she could have blown it as she went on TV and said the American citizens in Israel had the same amount of time to get their ballots in after the election as our military. She didn't have a clue that ordinary citizens living abroad do not have the same protection as our military "is supposed to have" when it comes to absentee ballots. If she was so good in 2000, she would have stood up for the military ballots that were thrown out by counties like Hillsborough. I hate to think what would have happened if Jeb and others hadn't given her backbone because she would have flounded without that support.


107 posted on 08/25/2006 10:27:19 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (God Bless America and the men and women who serve in our military!)
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To: PhiKapMom
I missed that episode. I was more into projecting the count of hanging chads I guess!

I might add, that my projections were pretty good. :)

108 posted on 08/25/2006 10:30:28 PM PDT by Torie
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To: nopardons

I can't imagine any other explanation than Harris being livid at the Republican party and just trying to take them down in flames with her. Telling a Jewish Congresswoman that she's not fit to serve because she's Jewish is about as dumb as it gets. Wasserman Schultz is a liberal and I'm sure that there are numerous things in her record Harris can attack. Anti-Semitism won't win votes, especially in Florida which probably has the most active Jewish voting community in America. What a dumb POS


109 posted on 08/25/2006 10:33:08 PM PDT by youthgonewild
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To: Alex Murphy

I will cast my lot with those that keep the same christian-judeo views as i have,over the nutcase,moonbat,kos crowd,RINOS and abortion loving sickos,anyday of the week.Goodluck to Katy.


110 posted on 08/25/2006 10:41:20 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

God sets up all authority's. Please show me where we are stewards of government?


111 posted on 08/25/2006 10:41:50 PM PDT by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: stands2reason
Why don't you just kick all non-Christians out of the party? That'd make you feel better.

"Our Constitution was made ONLY for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams, Founding Father, 2nd President of the U.S.

Is Katherine Harris saying anything different?

112 posted on 08/25/2006 10:42:17 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: PhiKapMom
First it was the really bad plastic surgery, then her bewildering loss of staff member after staff member and her constant whining about the lack of support from Jeb and the president, and then more loss of staff, and now THIS. Harris's campaign makes Jeannine's, in N.Y., look like genius and it wasn't.

Katherine's first mistake was to go for this Senate seat, without having first settled into the House one.

113 posted on 08/25/2006 10:43:38 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: youthgonewild
No, N.Y.C. and parts of California and N/J. and Conn, have far larger Jewish voting blocks; still, Florida's Jewish population is nothing to sneeze at.

As for Harris wanting to take down the GOPers, she isn't smart enough to even imagine that her fall from grace would do that. This woman is just completely clueless! And I used to like her. The more I know about her, the less I like anything at all about her.

114 posted on 08/25/2006 10:49:56 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Alls I know is that I feel bad for thinking Jeb and the Florida Republican party were petty RINOs for not getting behind her. They probably had a good idea of her temperment and knew she'd be a huge drag on the ticket. If she does, she may or may not be big enough to drag down Crist, but I think Clay Shaw is not to happy about this.


115 posted on 08/25/2006 10:52:43 PM PDT by youthgonewild
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To: Torie

Apparently she ain't interested in the votes of the rather sizeable Jewish voters of Florida. Her brilliance knows no bounds.


116 posted on 08/25/2006 10:53:43 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: PhiKapMom; Alex Murphy; Torie; nopardons; darkangel82; stands2reason; BillyBoy; highball; ...

Katherine is right on this one. Can't say I blame her for pandering to her base. Christians. A majority of Republicans in this state are Christians...who cares what Democrats on a a democrat website from a Democrat controlled newspaper (orlando sentinel) have to say about Harris. More of the same old crap.

Let me explain what Katherine is saying in terms that all you worthless pagans can understand.

It is impossible to have law without having morality behind that law, because all law is enacted morality.

There are different kinds of morality. Biblical morality is one thing...Buddhist, Hindu, and Muslim morality are radically different moral systems. Some moral laws forbid the eating of meats as sinful, as for example, Hinduism, and others declare that the killing of unbelievers can be a virtue, as in Muslim morality. For Plato's morality, some acts of perversion were noble forms of love, whereas for the Bible the same acts are deserving of capital punishment.

Here's my point: all law is enacted morality and presupposes a moral system, a moral law, and all morality presupposes a religion as its foundation. Laws rest on morality, and morality on religion. Weaken the religious foundation and the result is the progressive collapse of law and order, and the breakdown of society.

Our laws have become increasingly secular or humanistic and so have our courts. Legistlators are giving us a new morality. They offer nothing but salvation by law...and no Christian can accept this. Wherever we look now, whether it be poverty, education, civil rights, human rights, peace, and all things else, we see laws passed designed to save man. Supposedly, these laws are to give us a society free of prejudice, ignorance, disease, poverty, crime, war, and all other things considered to be evil. These legistlative programs add up to one thing and that is salvation by law.

Laws grounded on the Bible do not attempt to save man or to usher in a brave new world, a great society, world peace, a poverty-free world, or any other such ideal. The purpose of Biblical law, and all laws grounded on a Biblical faith, is to punish and restrain evil, and to protect life and property, to provide justice for all people. It is not the purpose of the state and it's law to change or reform men: this is a spiritual matter and a task for religion. Man can be changed only by the grace of God and the ministry of his Word. Man cannot be changed by statist legistlation; he cannot be legistlated into a new character. The evil will or heart of a man can be restrained by law, in that a man can be afraid of the consequences of disobediance.

Katherine Harris understands that as a legistlator the basic function of the law is to restrain, not to regenerate, and when the function of the law is changed from the restraint of evil to the reformation of man and society, then law itself begins to breakdown, because an impossible burden is placed upon it. Too much is expected of it, so it is improperly used.

Secular legistlators will never be satisfied with their sets of laws. They will always be searching for the right set, because their plan of "salvation" depends upon it.


117 posted on 08/25/2006 10:54:51 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: JulieRNR21

PONG!!


118 posted on 08/25/2006 10:56:32 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?

Romans indeed attributes all authorities as being permitted by God to be in power. We do have the ability to impact our governance. Queen Esther went and pleaded with the King--she was born 'for such a time as this.'

God does give free-will choice and personal responsibility. In Proverbs is the passage, "When the righteous are in power, the people rejoice, but when the wicked are in power, they groan."

The Mayflower Compact, our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution are applications of our ability to self-govern, "one nation under God."

Note that I'm not saying all 'Christians' are righteous nor that non-Christicans are all wicked, of course...the original context was Jewish.


Cheers.


119 posted on 08/25/2006 11:00:47 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: youthgonewild

Yes, yes, let's hope that she finally shuts up and just goes quietly away, after she loses the primary.


120 posted on 08/25/2006 11:01:40 PM PDT by nopardons
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