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Ex-homosexuals protest APA’s view of homosexuality
FloridaBaptistWitness ^ | Aug 24, 2006 | BP

Posted on 08/25/2006 2:56:54 AM PDT by FairOpinion

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To: scripter
Thanks! When you need a quick link to any of the APA excerpts, go to my FR Profile page and scroll (way) down the page (look for The infiltration of the 'professional' medical associations...). There are links to information on the Am Pyschological and the Am Psychiatric Associations, and the American Academy of Pediatrics posted there.
61 posted on 08/25/2006 11:07:49 AM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: Antoninus

One does not have to have anal sex to be gay...no more than a heterosexual does.


62 posted on 08/25/2006 11:12:48 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: scripter
You keep arguing a non-point. Since you don't actually READ my posts, I'll say it again. MAny, many gays are NOT actually gay...they were trained that way.

Some, however, ARE. Not EVERYONE can be changed.

BTW - how do you feel about Hermaphrodites. They're out there. Breasts, penis, vagina...the whole works. Just the way God made them. How do THEY fit into your "small little box".?

In fact, in college, I did a paper on a small island in which due to a VERY rare genetic disorder, 10-15% of the children are born female. At puberty, they become male. How do THEY fit into your tiny little box??

There are NO absolutes in nature. There is no "perfect genetic human". There is no "perfect" tree. There is no "perfect" anything. Life does NOT fit into your tiny little box - no matter HOW hard you try to cram it.

For religious folks, you sure don't understand God or this universe.

63 posted on 08/25/2006 11:22:07 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: longtermmemmory
I have NO idea what you are talking about. And, I've never heard of Prof. Lackoff.

Some people ARE gay though.

64 posted on 08/25/2006 11:24:43 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: KeepUSfree

humans choose to engage in homosexual conduct. It is a sexual fetish.


65 posted on 08/25/2006 11:31:00 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: vox humana
If you can show me how to completely get rid of my heterosexuality, I will consider the slim possibility that homos can be cured.

I don't think anyone believes you can completely get rid of it. You have had years of positive reinforcement, so those attractions can come back. But you can develop new attractions and act on the new attractions. I suppose someone like Tony Robbins could try to make you truely disgusted with women, but you would have to really want to do it.

66 posted on 08/25/2006 11:37:33 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: vox humana
Here's how they are "cured":

One of the techniques used is to wire the subject up, show them homoerotica and give them electric shocks everytime they respond sexually. Given enough shocks - they'll stop responding. With negative reinforcement techniques - almost ANYONE can be changed into ANYTHING.

67 posted on 08/25/2006 11:44:42 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Antoninus
Really? You mean, people who were naturally born with a vagina where their anus should be? Will wonders never cease!

You must not know many homosexuals. I know plenty who wouldn't let anyone stick anything up their anus for a million dollars.

A sizable portion of homosexuals are "tops" rather than "bottoms". They do the "sticking" - they don't get "stuck".

68 posted on 08/25/2006 11:51:05 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Always Right

heterosexual is the structure of your bodies reproductive mechanisms. (the plumbing)

Homosexual is a recreational sex practice.


You can cease conduct, you can't cease your anatomy.


69 posted on 08/25/2006 11:54:11 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
It is pure absurdity. Naturally born a bank robber behavior? Naturally born a chocolate eater? Naturally born a snail eather? Naturally born a silk sheet sleeper? Naturally born a ford driver? Naturally born a Chevy driver? Naturally born a cat person? Naturally born a dog person?

How about:

Naturally born outgoing?
Naturally born shy?
Naturally born mathematically inclined?
Naturally born lefties?
Naturally born smart?
Naturally born dumb?
Naturally born athletic?
Naturally born musically gifted?

70 posted on 08/25/2006 11:54:54 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Antoninus
No one is born predisposed to put their penis in another man's anus. Period.

You are wrong. Period.

That is no different than saying: "No one is born predisposed to be a musician."

Some people are. Your personal beliefs do not change reality.

71 posted on 08/25/2006 11:57:36 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: scripter

(and there's another that slips my mind)


Are you thinking of Dr. Gerald E. Zuriff?

72 posted on 08/25/2006 12:05:25 PM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: longtermmemmory
If you live in a tiny little box. Like a asked another small-minder...What about hermaphrodites?? They have both a penis, breasts AND vagina?? WHat should THEY do?? Kill themselves???

You'd probably approve of that...

73 posted on 08/25/2006 12:10:24 PM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: Tokra

homeschoolers obviously have had success making the mathematically inclined.

Lets us not forget the Psychologist who said "give me any 12 children and I will raise them to be whatever you want." He was talking about Drs, scientists, mathematicians, musicians.

Of course the DUmies have developed their own training center.


74 posted on 08/25/2006 12:13:16 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
homeschoolers obviously have had success making the mathematically inclined.

That may be - but it doesn't change the fact that certain people are born musically inclined and others aren't. Some people are born naturally outgoing and others are born naturally shy.

Why is it such a stretch to believe that some are born homosexually ionclined?

75 posted on 08/25/2006 12:16:23 PM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: KeepUSfree

true hermaphrodites are birth defects and have a horrible existence. Generally sterile, genrally non functional or partially developed. It is not the fantasy of ancient mythology.

Families with those children have miserable hard choices to make to accomodate the birth defect. Usually the male genitals are chopped off and the infant is reconstructed into female.

Of course all this assumes they live long enough to even reach adulthood which most do not.


76 posted on 08/25/2006 12:17:11 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: FairOpinion

"“close scrutiny” of conversion therapies “cast doubt on their claims” that people have been freed from homosexuality"


Scrutiny of THERAPIES? Why not be more scientific and scrutinize the PATIENTS?


77 posted on 08/25/2006 12:18:25 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: FairOpinion

The thing that I don't like sometimes on Freerepublic which is my favorite website is when FREEPERS make fun of people who have NOT come out of the closet or even give any indication that they are gay, but FREEPERS continue to insist that they are and are wanting them to be gay and become another activist. I find that so strange when we continually complain about gays wanting attention. We can't have it both ways. If a guy acts gay but isn't why do we FREEPERS continue to INSIST that they are gay. One being Richard Simmons, Hillary Clinton, Jody Foster, Matt Damon, etc. I really find that irresponsible for conservatives. I would rather not have anybody be homosexual and conservatives are always saying that it is not right for people to say they are gay and be activists. Why does this topic excite FREEPERS? I don't get it.


78 posted on 08/25/2006 12:24:20 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Tokra

PS: Cute handle. Stargate characters who are human with a large worm inside their head...


79 posted on 08/25/2006 12:29:14 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
Actually, MANY reach adulthood.

But, you never address the issue - which is "Life does not fit into a box". There are billions of genetic variations which lead to billions of different definitions of "normal".

Who are YOU to tell God that his creations are defective??

80 posted on 08/25/2006 12:30:46 PM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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